Councillors approve highrise!

Councillors approve highrise!

Postby GregF » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:08 am

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1202/dublin.html

So Dublin councillors have approved highrise of up to 16 storeys in areas of the city. All kinda irrelevant now that the building boom is over.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby AMDM » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:09 pm

Hilarious- max of 8 storeys on Georges Quay???

CIE never had a chance........ and the Draft DCC plan for that area last year was slightly misleading to say the least........ think it recommended over 20 storeys at Tara St.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby StephenC » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:00 pm

Hey people - you dont like it? then make your submissions.
I agree that the limit at Georges Quay seems very bizarre.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby aj » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:38 pm

StephenC wrote:Hey people - you dont like it? then make your submissions.
I agree that the limit at Georges Quay seems very bizarre.


seems odd given whats already there.

does the new highrise plan mean that the new liberty hall is dead in the water from a planning perspecive.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby reddy » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:50 pm

AMDM wrote:Hilarious- max of 8 storeys on Georges Quay???

CIE never had a chance........ and the Draft DCC plan for that area last year was slightly misleading to say the least........ think it recommended over 20 storeys at Tara St.


Dunno about this policy yet but in the previous draft there was room for exceptional circumstances which would be argued on a case by case basis - especially in the context of a Local Area Plan.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby rob mc » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:59 pm

I heard it was over 16 stories at hueston, connoly and the docklands so its not all bad news. Except for the fact that in order to build that high at connoly their gonna have to start knocking buildings due to the fact that are is no room.........
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby alonso » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:37 am

rob mc wrote:I heard it was over 16 stories at hueston, connoly and the docklands so its not all bad news. Except for the fact that in order to build that high at connoly their gonna have to start knocking buildings due to the fact that are is no room.........


there's a massive car park behind Connolly
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby Yixian » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:00 pm

Oh wow, 16 stories, that's huuuge *rollseyes*
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby AMDM » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:40 pm

it is for Dublin...... and within the city basin
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby Yixian » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:01 pm

Just gotta find someone to build them now then aye?
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby layo » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:12 pm

I wonder what the ramifications of this decision will have on the Grangegorman master plan? The current plan "has been highly commended at the World Architecture Festival Awards in Barcelona". I think if this zoning affects Grangegorman heights, it could end up being another cause for delay for a development now expected for completion in 2017. DIT really have been screwed over in this whole process! (and the recession of course)..

http://www.grangegormandevelopmentagency.ie/
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby Contraband » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:13 pm

Yixian wrote:Oh wow, 16 stories, that's huuuge *rollseyes*


It does say that over 16 stories is acceptable in three broad locations/districts. Not that awful, we may take this as a win.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby reddy » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:15 pm

Yixian wrote:Just gotta find someone to build them now then aye?


And occupy them!
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby foremanjoe » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:16 pm

Sounds like they tried to put the horse behind the cart, but when they went to get the horse they found that it had already bolted. They then attempted to shut the stable door only to find that there was no door there in the first place.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby JoePublic » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:44 pm

It does say GREATER THAN 16 stories Yixian.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby irishguy » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:18 pm

Why is there any limit to hight in the docklands (if properly planned)? If only this was in place 15 years ago the urban sprawl could be avoided to some extent.
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Re: Councillors approve highrise!

Postby PVC King » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:35 am

Joe is correct it does say greater than 16 storeys at the 3 defined locations which is welcome but that aside it looks fundamentally flawed. 16 residential stories equates to about 12 commercial storeys which just about hits the lower range of mid rise or roughly half the height of what is considered the very smallest high rise by European standards.

To my mind there are only two grounds for refusing tall buildings in principle, beauty parades being a further proposal specific one and these are

1. Interferance with an ACA or important listed building
2. Lack of transport infrastructure.

To start the process in reverse and categorically ban anything over a certain height in specific locations for example Mountjoy Square and areas away from an existing transport line would have been a much better way of regulating what has always been an issue with very polarised opinions.
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