The Velibs are coming?

The Velibs are coming?

Postby Service charge » Mon May 18, 2009 3:01 pm

So are these the velib stations? One at St Audeons and one beside by Charlemont Luas stop on the canal.

They look a bit plastic to me.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby DjangoD » Tue May 19, 2009 12:11 am

Just passed a row of these being installed near Portobello bridge, just at the paved area beside the college and the Lower Deck there.

Is this anything to do with those JC Decaux bikes or am I getting confused?
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby missarchi » Tue May 19, 2009 12:57 am

just in time for summer
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby ctesiphon » Tue May 19, 2009 8:55 am

DjangoD wrote:Is this anything to do with those JC Decaux bikes or am I getting confused?


No- you're spot on. Not sure they're being called Velib, though.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby shed » Tue May 19, 2009 9:27 am

Theres an unusual installation taking place at the meeting of Nassau Street & Leinster Street South...im thinking it could be these bike stands also
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby missarchi » Tue May 19, 2009 12:58 pm

Will the lord mayor or the minister for transport be the first one to ride it across Carlisle Bridge at peak hour? :D
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby Service charge » Tue May 19, 2009 3:17 pm

And what a surprise we are getting different ones to Paris Image

So this means either:

-we are getting a new improved version; or (and the more likely scenario)
-we are getting a crapier version because our city council is so inept.

The Parisian ones certainly look better and seems to have display and function buttons on each individual unit. We get the box standard straight up dum version.

What are the chances that the Dublin bikes are sh1t too when compared to Paris?
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby arch77 » Tue May 19, 2009 5:02 pm

different ones to paris but same as sevilla and lyon it seems... cant imagine they'll be that different. Where there might be a problem is numbers... I heard that there was only going to be 450 bikes!! the sevici in sevilla has 2000. Both cities are comparable in size and population... we need to flood the place with them.

any word on a name for them... Rothar??
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby newgrange » Tue May 19, 2009 5:30 pm

arch77 wrote:
any word on a name for them... Rothar??


Forty pieces of silver.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby DjangoD » Tue May 19, 2009 9:45 pm

I asked one of the lads installing the terminal things up at Portobello when they were expected to be functioning and he reckons within six to seven weeks.

How long until they all end up at the bottom of the canals or Liffey is another thing though. Maybe seven to eight weeks.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby sw101 » Wed May 20, 2009 1:55 am

DjangoD wrote:I asked one of the lads installing the terminal things up at Portobello when they were expected to be functioning and he reckons within six to seven weeks.

How long until they all end up at the bottom of the canals or Liffey is another thing though. Maybe seven to eight weeks.


that mindset baffles me. something appears in your city and all you thing to do with it is steal it, thrash it and throw it into the nearest ditch or body of water. the world would be a more beautiful place if every single thing didn't have to be designed to be vandal-proof and scumbag-proof.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby jspruit » Wed May 20, 2009 9:37 am

There is an installation of the Velib bikes under construction along Fitzwilliam Square West as well. Looking forward to seeing them finished with working bikes in order.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby missarchi » Wed May 20, 2009 9:53 am

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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby poukai » Wed May 20, 2009 12:23 pm

Are there any maps of where the stations will be? I'm paranoidly assuming there won't be any anywhere that will be of any use to me...

The stations look like the ones set up in Toulouse a couple of years ago now, and they are good quality bikes from what I've seen.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby ctesiphon » Wed May 20, 2009 12:25 pm

Laytown? ;)

They're all inside the canals, mostly east of a north-south axis that runs through the Four Courts. I've seen a map, but not online. If I turn one up, I'll post it.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby poukai » Wed May 20, 2009 12:28 pm

Hah, nah, I was thinking more in the "getting from the station to work" perspective :D Putting them anywhere near a Dart station would probably be far too smart and efficient, of course...
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby fergalr » Wed May 20, 2009 6:12 pm

And free to use? I'll definitely use them if there pick-up/set-down stations are scattered frequently enough throughout the city. Then again... if there were twenty stations, there'd only be twenty bikes or so at each if we're getting a scant four hundred or so. You really do need about two thousand for these to have enough saturation to work.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby Smithfield Resi » Wed May 20, 2009 10:54 pm

Love all the spin about 'free' bikes

Not free: 50c an hour plus a joining fee.
Not free: €185m in lost revenue to the city
Not free: The amenity cost of looking at the poxy metropoles
Not free: The human cost of someone getting seriously hurt or injured by walking out from behind the dangerous footpath 'metropanels'
Not free: The precendent of the planning authority looking the other way on breaches of planning conditions

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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby hutton » Thu May 21, 2009 8:06 am

Smithfield Resi wrote:Love all the spin about 'free' bikes

Not free: 50c an hour plus a joining fee.
Not free: €185m in lost revenue to the city
Not free: The amenity cost of looking at the poxy metropoles
Not free: The human cost of someone getting seriously hurt or injured by walking out from behind the dangerous footpath 'metropanels'
Not free: The precendent of the planning authority looking the other way on breaches of planning conditions

:mad:


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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby europhile » Thu May 21, 2009 3:09 pm

Not a huge amount on the internet about it.

The scheme is called dublinbikes and here's the list of locations.

http://www.labour.ie/oisinquinn/news/12411305531725943.html

Won't be up and running till September. Sigh.

http://www.dublinbikes.ie/misc/construction.html

Seems we're not the only louts in Europe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5697094.ece
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby missarchi » Thu May 21, 2009 10:25 pm

36. St. Stephens Green East
37. St. Stephens Green South

um are they assuming they will move them in 6 years?

no Heuston or Connolly? i'm not seeing a map or clear integration
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby newgrange » Thu May 21, 2009 10:29 pm

missarchi wrote:
no Heuston or Connolly? i'm not seeing a map or clear integration


They probably need all available space there for more hideous advertising.
Integration and sensible siting of the stations would pre-suppose that the bicycles and getting people cycling was the point of this debacle.
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby missarchi » Fri May 22, 2009 2:24 am

So far five people have been killed on the bikes...

I wonder how? It would be an interesting condition for the interconnector and metro north...
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby poukai » Fri May 22, 2009 7:56 am

Smithfield Resi wrote:Not free: The human cost of someone getting seriously hurt or injured by walking out from behind the dangerous footpath 'metropanels'
:mad:


missarchi wrote:So far five people have been killed on the bikes...
I wonder how?


The same way people are killed on every other kind of bike... I just love that there's always a comment about how dangerous new things are, especially when they are strictly as dangerous as the identical things they are derived from... Riding a bike in a city is hardly a danger-free thing to do in the best of cases, in fact walking in the street is a pretty risky thing to do too, "metropanels" aren't going to change that, in fact, they could even be handy shields to protect people from golf umbrellas :D

Smithfield Resi wrote:Love all the spin about 'free' bikes

Not free: 50c an hour plus a joining fee.
Not free: €185m in lost revenue to the city

This kind of bike system has never been free to use, as far as I know. I'm wondering if the whole "free" thing isn't just a mistranslation of the French name "Velib", the Lib(re) bit meaning Free as in freedom, not as in free of charge... In Paris, it's 1€ per half hour, so 50c an hour looks pretty good to me.
Where does the "€185m in lost revenue to the city" come from? :confused:
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Re: The Velibs are coming?

Postby kceire » Fri May 22, 2009 9:32 am

map of all bike locations here :

http://www.aaireland.ie/download/bikescheme.pdf
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