Tara st station

Tara st station

Postby missarchi » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:08 pm

Whats the history of this station was it always meant to be temporary shed because it looks like it apart from some new work??? not that this is a bad thing because I wouldn't mind taking the bridge apart.

I counted 24/34 advertisements on the platforms alone

Pearse is not much better...

whats the story/history behind this
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Re: Tara st station

Postby jdivision » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:07 pm

missarchi, there have been plans in the pipeline for years to redevelop the area around it and part of the station itself. The last ones were shelved after fears were raised about whether the structure proposed could be supported if hit by a derailed train. New proposals seem to have been drawn up however, seem to remember something about them being in the Tribune in February maybe?
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Re: Tara st station

Postby fergalr » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:15 pm

It beats having to look at the fabric of Tara st. Pearse has the potential to be a nice station, I always feel. Esp with that great roof over it.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby cgcsb » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:18 pm

I'm confused as to where the new buildings would go? surely there isn't plans to nock the very modern and stylish Georges Quay plaza buildings?
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Re: Tara st station

Postby fergalr » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:20 pm

The building would go over the station, I think. They have a station on the DLR in Canary Wharf like that.Then again, they have a public transport infrastructure in London.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby jdivision » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:11 am

I think the building would be predominantly to the east of the station. no chance of Georges Quay being demolished, different owners. As for coming up from the station in Canary Wharf, foster did a superb job I think in terms of materials and light. First time I used it it did feel like an experience
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Re: Tara st station

Postby StephenC » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:43 am

jdivision wrote: no chance of Georges Quay being demolished, different owners.


word on the street is that exactly that is planned. Not the towers but the rest of the scheme.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby d_d_dallas » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:51 am

as in the ulster bank bits?

if so good riddance!
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Re: Tara st station

Postby jdivision » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:05 am

Sorry should have stressed that I was referring to the Cosgrave scheme. There has been some mutterings re: Ulster Bank alright
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Re: Tara st station

Postby johnglas » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:34 pm

I have never understood the antipathy to the 'Ulster Bank bits' - it's not great architecture, but it's not as awful or as overbearing as some. What about the overbearing monster currently housing the Irish Times? Townscape, context, relationship to neighbours? I don't see it.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby reddy » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:46 pm

Do you mean the Irish Times building on Tara St? I'm amazed you say that. I personally think its a great building. Contextually its not unsensitive. The context is quite scattered as it is, given the areas mixture of development and height, bulk, materials etc.

This building establishes a new benchmark in the street for the creation of enclosure and immediacy to the street. I also have to admire the architects (Donnely Turpin) for creating a dynamic, quality design from a banal, city council led, speculative commercial brief.

I really like it I must say.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby cgcsb » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:10 pm

I don't get it. The Ulster Bank Buildings are great. They could do with being a little taller but still great design a feel
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Re: Tara st station

Postby d_d_dallas » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:11 pm

re: tara st - especially given this was Dublin City Council!
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Re: Tara st station

Postby StephenC » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:14 pm

Me too! (irish times bldg) Its an excellent development
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Re: Tara st station

Postby joanlemmon » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:14 pm

Ulster Bank is good and IT bldg bad?

Talking through your shlong A.J. per usual
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Re: Tara st station

Postby missarchi » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:49 pm

ulster reminds me of Christchurch from city hall X 10
I like the main buildings but I don't like the connections to the public space I would have preferred a brick Georgian outer layer but this is smack city
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Re: Tara st station

Postby johnglas » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:50 pm

joanlemmon: Obsessed with dicks? You've got a problem, usually expressed through your arse.
The other serious posters: I reserve my right not to like the IT bldg - it's substantially taller than any of its neighbours and sets a new benchmark only if you knock everything else in the immediate vicinity. It's an above-average vehicle for cramming the maximum commercial floorspace in the smallest possible footprint- it does not respect its context. It's also black, shiny and reflective - a bit like a spiv with shades (and I'm not referring to skin colour).
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Re: Tara st station

Postby Sarsfield » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:55 pm

johnglas wrote:it does not respect its context.


What context is worth respecting? Tara St is total pants from one end to the other. So is Townsend St.

The IT building is the first attractive development in the area.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby joanlemmon » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:27 am

johnglas wrote:joanlemmon: Obsessed with dicks? You've got a problem, usually expressed through your arse.
The other serious posters: I reserve my right not to like the IT bldg - it's substantially taller than any of its neighbours and sets a new benchmark only if you knock everything else in the immediate vicinity. It's an above-average vehicle for cramming the maximum commercial floorspace in the smallest possible footprint- it does not respect its context. It's also black, shiny and reflective - a bit like a spiv with shades (and I'm not referring to skin colour).


twaddle my dear boy
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Re: Tara st station

Postby johnglas » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:24 pm

JL: keeping up your high standard of critique, I see.
sarsfield: I agree about Tara St in general, but we all have our opinions and we just don't agree.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby Zap » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:22 am

I gotta agree with johnglas. The IT building should be at the Grand Canal dock area. Although Tara St is a mess, the IT building is the most out of place building on the street. Plus I hate its treatment of its corner position - I like straight city corners and this interscetion was nearly there - three out of four.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby SunnyDub » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:00 pm

Downturn fails to derail high-rise plan for stations

By Paul Melia
Monday November 03 2008
The Irish Independent

IARNROD Eireann is to press ahead with plans to develop high-rise buildings at Connolly and Tara Street stations in Dublin, despite the economic downturn.

The company is to seek planning permission for buildings over 60 metres tall later this year, and in 2009, after Dublin City Council indicated that both sites were suitable for high-rise development.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/downturn-fails-to-derail-highrise-plan-for-stations-1518409.html

Last week, An Bord Pleanala ruled that plans to redevelop Tara Street station, one of the country's busiest transport centres, were classed as strategic infrastructure, which meant they could be fast-tracked through the planning process.

Now the company plans to invest €125m building a 14-storey office tower above the tracks on the 0.3-acre site.

It is also developing a masterplan for Connolly Station which will see the air rights -- or the empty space above the tracks -- developed as offices and new homes. "It is our intention to lodge a planning application for Tara Street before the end of this year," a company spokesman said yesterday. "We're finalising the overall plan for Connolly, and we would intend to apply (for permission) next year."

Major increases in customer numbers have seen throughput in Tara Street grow to 10 million passengers a year, and further growth is expected as Transport 21 projects -- including the underground DART tunnel -- come on stream.

The Tara Street plan is being updated to take account of the growth in passenger numbers, and Iarnrod Eireann has already been granted permission for a 60.8-metre, 14-storey office tower above the station.

The permission included approval for a new 12-metre-high, €20m station concourse with 13,000 square metres of office accommodation above.

The main focus of the new design will be to provide an improved concourse area that will cater for up to 14,500 passengers per hour at peak times.

In addition, it is hoped that the revised design will provide for a similar area of office accommodation above in a landmark tower feature.

- Paul Melia
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Re: Tara st station

Postby johnny21 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:55 am

Good News!!:D

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Re: Tara st station

Postby donalbarry7 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:22 pm

It's good to see redevelopment in the area, although I have to say the old plans don't look the best. Hopefully, something better will surface in the next few months. Also, think the ultimate succes of this development rests with the revamp or replacement of Liberty Hall.
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Re: Tara st station

Postby SunnyDub » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:12 pm

I also think that the a revamped station will be a big bonus, I can't believe it's taken this long given that they had a design. What stopped it? I'm guessing a land ownership dispute with the adjacent pub or something? Hopefully the station will get built quickly.:)
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