Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby lostexpectation » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:14 pm

City officials plan junket to promote Liffey sculpture
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/city-officials-plan-junket-to-promote-liffey-sculpture-1458015.html

to go see hafencity in hamburg...
http://www.hafencity.com/

which as far as i can see only puts stuff in the water in docks not in the main river.

don't think this has that much to do with the statue but other things ddda are planning, other pontoons etc
lostexpectation
Senior Member
 
Posts: 566
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby petere » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:32 am

This project asks a fundamental question about the role of public art today. Is its primary role social or economic?
Is this project about art and its social value? or is it simply a vulgar attempt to improve the symbolic capital of a contrived and packaged environment?
In this case I think the artist has been overtaken by the authority.
petere
Member
 
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:49 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby lostexpectation » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:50 am

Wire man set to wade in to Liffey as 10-year planning permission granted
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0116/1232059653964.html
It has, however, only permitted the sculpture to stand for 10 years, after which it must either be dismantled or new planning permission must be obtained.

The condition, highly unusual in relation to sculptures or statues, is frequently used in relation to quarries or mobile phone masts, on the basis that technology or the surrounding physical conditions may change over a 10-year period, making the structure inappropriate or obsolete. In relation to the Liffey sculpture, the 10-year limit is being imposed to allow the impact of such a tall structure to be reassessed, and to see if it continues to fit in with its surroundings.
lostexpectation
Senior Member
 
Posts: 566
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby alonso » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:29 pm

DDDA have stated that they won't be building it for the time being. - something to do with the inverse relationship between dole queues and pox-riddled horrendous public art projects
alonso
Senior Member
 
Posts: 975
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:33 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby lostexpectation » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:39 pm

you think the sculpture is pox ridden and horrendus?
lostexpectation
Senior Member
 
Posts: 566
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby hutton » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:44 pm

alonso wrote:DDDA have stated that they won't be building it for the time being. - something to do with the inverse relationship between dole queues and pox-riddled horrendous public art projects


No loss. A bit like the Dead Zoo Museum extension being cut.

It's an ill wind and all that...
hutton
Senior Member
 
Posts: 993
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:14 pm
Location: NAMA HQ

Giant delay to Giant project

Postby dc3 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:45 pm

Among the unremitting all round bad news, the fact that this unneeded and unlovely project is now placed in the deep pending aka never tray is just one little ray of sunshine.:)
dc3
Member
 
Posts: 461
Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2000 1:00 am
Location: dublin, ireland

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby Rory W » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:57 pm

Should put it outside the new Anglo building - a figure pissing away money.

Similar to the two fingers at AIB HQ
Rory W
Old Master
 
Posts: 1331
Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2000 12:00 am
Location: Drogheda & Blackrock

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby Peter Fitz » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:04 pm

RoryW wrote:Similar to the two fingers at AIB HQ


I think the two fingers have fucked off now, haven't they ?

(Could be wrong but thought they were given the chop as part of the extension/re-design etc.)
Peter Fitz
 

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby GregF » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:52 pm

I'm glad in a way.

I didn't particularly like the appearance of wire mesh frame!

The giant figure would have been too conspicuous in insignificant stumpy building land.
User avatar
GregF
Old Master
 
Posts: 1610
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2000 1:00 am
Location: Dublin, Ireland

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby JoePublic » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:41 pm

Another great victory for archiseek.

I don't understand the reason this was cancelled. Do they not have the relatively little 1.5 million to build it? If that's the case the DDDA is f**ked. Are they just trying to prevent the perception of waste?
JoePublic
Member
 
Posts: 187
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:26 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby Paul Clerkin » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:59 pm

I imagine its the perception of waste rather than being that strapped for cash.
User avatar
Paul Clerkin
Old Master
 
Posts: 5427
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 1999 1:00 am
Location: Monaghan

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby Highrise » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:51 pm

Pity this has been shelved, would have been a nice addition to the area. In the abscense of any Highrise buildings this would have given the IFSC a logo/focal point.
Highrise
Member
 
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:44 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby JoePublic » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:21 pm

Paul Clerkin wrote:I imagine its the perception of waste rather than being that strapped for cash.


So the can-do celtic tiger attitude is dead, and the 80s really are back, great. Think it's time to get out of here, beat the rush like.
JoePublic
Member
 
Posts: 187
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:26 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby alonso » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:10 pm

Highrise wrote:Pity this has been shelved, would have been a nice addition to the area. In the abscense of any Highrise buildings this would have given the IFSC a logo/focal point.


i think they're focussed on the ISEQ at the moment.

In any case this is no substitute for High Rise buildings, it's nothing more than a phallic symbol of how little imagination the DDDA have
alonso
Senior Member
 
Posts: 975
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:33 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby lostexpectation » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:15 pm

ah im really disappointed, i too reservation about its placement,its relevance, its purpose in covering up a multide of sins, but it probably the best sculpturer you could have and ddda have screwed him too.
lostexpectation
Senior Member
 
Posts: 566
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby Alek Smart » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:00 pm

I don't understand the reason this was cancelled. Do they not have the relatively little 1.5 million to build it? If that's the case the DDDA is f**ked. Are they just trying to prevent the perception of waste?
JoePublic


Surely the DDDA`s favoured bank might sponsor the piece ?...oops sorry...mea culpa....well OK then how about some philanthropic wealthy artistically minded individual such as Sèanie Fitz..... oh sorry again...gosh we really ARE in a bit of a bind here are`nt we :rolleyes:

God be with the days when we had TRUE patrons of the Arts running things from their North County Seats !!! Ã’chon Ã’chon sez I ....!!
Alek Smart
Member
 
Posts: 285
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:34 pm
Location: Tallaght

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby rob mc » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:27 pm

The Irish Times

THE DUBLIN Docklands Authority has said it will not be going ahead with the 46m (150ft) steel sculpture of a human figure in the river Liffey because of the cost of the project.

The authority had estimated last year that the sculpture by British artist Antony Gormley would cost up to €1.6 million to build.

An Bord Pleanála granted permission this week for the sculpture, which would have been almost the same height as the Statue of Liberty.

The authority said yesterday it was “very pleased” to have got planning permission for the sculpture, which was an important element of its arts strategy, but would not be erecting it.
rob mc
Member
 
Posts: 146
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:56 pm
Location: Galway

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby hutton » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:00 pm

Alek Smart wrote:Surely the DDDA`s favoured bank might sponsor the piece ?...oops sorry...mea culpa....well OK then how about some philanthropic wealthy artistically minded individual such as Sèanie Fitz..... oh sorry again...gosh we really ARE in a bit of a bind here are`nt we :rolleyes:

God be with the days when we had TRUE patrons of the Arts running things from their North County Seats !!! Ã’chon Ã’chon sez I ....!!


Lollers. Catty but true,
hutton
Senior Member
 
Posts: 993
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:14 pm
Location: NAMA HQ

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby Paul Clerkin » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:00 pm

User avatar
Paul Clerkin
Old Master
 
Posts: 5427
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 1999 1:00 am
Location: Monaghan

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby hutton » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:08 pm

Paul Clerkin wrote:A bad week for Gormley
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7845377.stm



Maybe we are really lucky that it's being canceled - from the BBC:

"But one of its steel spikes fell off within two weeks of its unveiling, a further nine have been removed and it remains fenced off on health and safety grounds.

The authority was set to take designer Thomas Heatherwick Studio Ltd to court over the issue until it agreed to pay £1.7m in an out-of-court settlement. "


£1.7 million paid out in compensation by the LA - sure that alone is more than what the construction budget was for the Liffey piece.

No loss indeed, at least for Dublin, that this project has been shelved.
hutton
Senior Member
 
Posts: 993
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:14 pm
Location: NAMA HQ

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby notjim » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:19 pm

Paul Clerkin wrote:A bad week for Gormley
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7845377.stm


Not really a bad week for Gormley, the _b of the bang_ isn't by him; he is just defending it.
notjim
 
Posts: 1708
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Dublin

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby lostexpectation » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:37 pm

they wanted to extend the tim, the figures were on the beach, but they have said no for safety reasons etc, and sure they were there long enough only meant to temporary.
lostexpectation
Senior Member
 
Posts: 566
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby lostexpectation » Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:23 pm

‘Delay’ to 46m Liffey Leviathan was a tall story
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article5581152.ece

Suggestions that the DDDA has scrapped plans for a giant wire man sculpture are nonsense, claims its creator Antony Gormley
Mary McCarthy, the authority’s arts manager, said that the DDDA’s statement was misunderstood.

“We said that we were reviewing the timeline of the project but it certainly hasn’t been scrapped. We have to decide whether it will be financed out of this year’s budget or next year’s but the money has been ring-fenced,” she said.

McCarthy said the project is only one month behind schedule. “We are hoping to go to market with tender documents in March and we would like to have a contractor by summer. We can then decide when to commence the build,” she said.

http://www.ddda.ie/index.jsp?p=94&n=105&a=1106
However, given the current economic environment, the project will be kept under review and the Docklands Authority will continue working with the artist and others to progress the design at this stage.

easy mistake to make


never heard the reaction of the locals to it being given permission.
lostexpectation
Senior Member
 
Posts: 566
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm

Re: Giant sculpture to be located in Liffey

Postby cgcsb » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:53 pm

wow, there's a turn of events
cgcsb
Senior Member
 
Posts: 516
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:24 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Ireland