Transportation System In Dublin

Transportation System In Dublin

Postby patty » Sun May 22, 2005 8:57 pm

Whats the story? Has the interconnentor been approved? Dublin is in a serious need of more transport because the city is struggling with traffic.

-There must be a transport map for users of rail, bus etc.
-The Interconnector must be built
-Dublin Airport has to be connected with city center
-There has to be a revamp of present ticketing system
-Intercity services have to be improved, with more trains running and a vaster network-especially North West
-Cork must get commuting rail services

Hopefully one day this will happen :) :) : :(
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby Cute Panda » Sun May 22, 2005 9:25 pm

Hi Patty, you'll get answers to all of the above here:

http://platform11.hyperboards3.com/index.cgi

and here:

http://www.platform11.org
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby patty » Sun May 22, 2005 9:29 pm

yep i know platform 11. I spend half my day on that site but i can't access the forums to read some posts. Thanks for the link but it doesn't open up the thread i think i have to register
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby PVC King » Sun May 22, 2005 10:35 pm

Registration is required for Platform11 and for anyone who appears as interested in Transport as you do it could be worth your while to take the two minutes to required to register, it is relatively simple oncew you supply a valid e-mail address.

The Platform11 AGM is on next Saturday at 2pm in the Bankers Club 93 St Stephens Green Dublin 2, membership is available on the day further details on their site http://www.platform11.org

Regarding your question, I don't think anyone can answer that with any certainty but it would appear that the interconnector has overtaken the RPA Dublin Airport 'Metro' as the number one priority in Dublin rail transport infrastructure.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby ewanduffy » Mon May 23, 2005 10:47 am

patty wrote:Whats the story? Has the interconnentor been approved? Dublin is in a serious need of more transport because the city is struggling with traffic.

-There must be a transport map for users of rail, bus etc.
-The Interconnector must be built
-Dublin Airport has to be connected with city center
-There has to be a revamp of present ticketing system
-Intercity services have to be improved, with more trains running and a vaster network-especially North West
-Cork must get commuting rail services

Hopefully one day this will happen :) :) : :(

Why must IR's dick extension be built? Use the Phoenix Park Tunnel. Of course, I'm sure someone in the know has property along the route of the Interconnector and stands to make a mint from the taxpayer's "investment".

DART along the Kildare Line through the tunnel, Cabra and back to Connolly would be a far cheaper option and better use of the State's resources.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby jimg » Mon May 23, 2005 11:33 am

Why must IR's dick extension be built? Use the Phoenix Park Tunnel.

And where are the trains to go then? Connolly is at capacity, so for every train you bring in there via the tunnel you're going to have to drop an enterprise, northern DART or Drogheda/Dundalk train. Besides the enterprise, people can't even get standing room on these services. The interconnector is a brilliant idea; I can't wait for the day when you can get a DART to Stephen's Green from Maynooth, Kildare, Drogheda or Bray, which I suspect would be a more useful and popular destination for many than Cabra.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby manstein » Mon May 23, 2005 12:13 pm

Thomond Park wrote:Regarding your question, I don't think anyone can answer that with any certainty but it would appear that the interconnector has overtaken the RPA Dublin Airport 'Metro' as the number one priority in Dublin rail transport infrastructure.


I would have thought that the metro would be more important addition rather than the interconnector. Dublin is the leading capital in Europe but initial impressions of the city are always going to be tainted when they discover that there are no tube or underground service serving the city centre but have to avail of a double deck Bus. I hoped it is done before the inevitable bust comes.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby PVC King » Mon May 23, 2005 12:15 pm

Just because Irish Rail have a significant interest in the Spencer Dock site does not mean that the interconnector shouldn't be built. As Jimg has stated Connolly is already at capacity and could not handle the volume produced by a four-tracked Kildare line. The interconnector also serves areas of Dublin that despite being some of the most intensively used areas in the City have never had a passenger rail service such as High St/Christchurch, St Stephens Green/Grafton St and Spencer Dock. This proposal is also the only one on the table that effectively integrates Luas and Dart as well as linking both divergent IR systems.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby mickeydocs » Mon May 23, 2005 12:20 pm

Dublin is the leading capital in Europe


what a bizarre comment!

Let's hope all future transport initiatives are thought through... why not outsource to someone such as sncf with a great record of success in terms of public transport.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby JPD » Mon May 23, 2005 1:36 pm

Even more bizarre when you think about the size of many European Cities that have fully integrated transport systems that include an underground. It is not only Dublin that needs investment in additional rail lines but if the RPA over-spend on Luas was repeated nothing else will happen for a very very long time.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby patty » Mon May 23, 2005 3:57 pm

pity im not living in dublin at the moment im in rome. i personally think that the interconnector is better than the metro because it serves a much vaster area and is ceaper but from an estetic point of view the metro is better it obviously sounds better than a suburban train.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby Morlan » Mon May 23, 2005 4:43 pm

Does anyone have a map of the Connolly to Housten line running under the park?
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby jimg » Mon May 23, 2005 5:37 pm

Most of the online maps have it; here it is on a google's map feature, for example. This map doesn't make it clear that the line goes under the park but I like google's interface; the map scrolls quickly (just drag or double click on the map). You'll notice that the line doesn't actually go from Heuston - it branches off further out from the station. Apparently there will be suburban trains using the line whenever Spensor Dock station is finished (in a year or so?) but they wont terminate in Connolly because of the capacity constraints. Instead they'll go to Spensor Dock station.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby Morlan » Mon May 23, 2005 7:00 pm

Thanks jimg. Just what I was looking for.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby patty » Mon May 23, 2005 7:57 pm

DOES ANYONE KNOW: What course to take if you want to go into transportation: being metro, rail etc. I'm only 14 but i'm very interested for when i'm older!
[B]PLEASE ANSWER
:)
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby PVC King » Mon May 23, 2005 8:02 pm

Patty Rail is a huge area that has many different areas.

It would help if you could expand on one or more of the following areas

Planning Urban Planning MRUP Masters Course in UCD or Queens Belfast
Design Civil Engineering All major Colleges
Management Commerce etc
Operations
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby ctesiphon » Mon May 23, 2005 8:06 pm

I once heard a girl in Busaras telling a friend about her course in Transport Logistics- don't know where it was run, though. Pretty sure it was an IT in the south (from the context).
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby flysrmd11 » Tue May 24, 2005 11:08 pm

There's a transport and logistics degree course in DIT.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby PVC King » Thu May 26, 2005 10:16 pm

The 'Transport Management' Diploma and Degree courses were eliminated a few years ago and replaced with The National Institute of Transport & Logistics you will find further details at http://www.nitl.ie

The Platform11 AGM has changed venue details on http://www.platform11.org
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby flysrmd11 » Thu May 26, 2005 10:45 pm

Thomond Park.

DIT still offers a Transport & Logistics degree:
http://www.dit.ie/DIT/study/undergraduate/courses/dt358.html
€1000 scholarship if you enter with 500+ CAO points.

Also a Transport Technology degree (less logistics):
http://www.dit.ie/DIT/study/undergraduate/courses/dt028.html
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby JPD » Thu May 26, 2005 10:52 pm

That sounds very good 1000 euro for a place
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby PVC King » Thu May 26, 2005 11:09 pm

flysrmd11 wrote:Thomond Park.

DIT still offers a Transport & Logistics degree:
http://www.dit.ie/DIT/study/undergraduate/courses/dt358.html
€]http://www.dit.ie/DIT/study/undergraduate/courses/dt028.html[/url]


I stand totally corrected on that, finding that course is not easy on the DIT website

http://www.dit.ie/DIT/Homepage/index.html

>>> http://www.dit.ie/DIT/business/

>>> http://www.dit.ie/DIT/business/management/index.html

>>> http://www.dit.ie/DIT/study/undergraduate/courses/dt358.html

Are you doing the course? If you are I will try to remove the size 10 from the back of my throat.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby flysrmd11 » Sun May 29, 2005 1:14 am

That sounds very good 1000 euro for a place


Sure but I'm not sure it would be a reason to choose that course over another. €1000, while it might improve your social life for a few months is only really a fraction of the total cost of your studies.

Thomond Park wrote:Are you doing the course?


No I'm not.
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Re: Transportation System In Dublin

Postby Jack White » Sun May 29, 2005 1:21 am

It says a lot about this country that logistics are considered a higher priority than moving people and at 305 points it would appear that moving goods is not considered too important either.
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