Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby jimg » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:45 pm

As for the extra height & bulk for U2, as long as the design can absorb it then fair enough - but also as long as this will be deemed one of those ubiquitous 'landmark' buildings and will not set the level for the area.

Why? I really dislike the aesthetics and even the idea of 'landmark' standalone towers which dominate entire areas of the city. Someone in the other thread posted a series of photos of European cities which have tall buildings. The ones which adopted a "clustered" approach to tall buildings - Frankfurt, Paris, etc. - are far more appealling than having individual towers dispersed around a generally low rise city. I'd rather have this, the Point "tower", Heuston Gate, the Barrow St./Thomas St./Tara St./etc. proposals all bunched together somewhere down the docks instead of ending up with having the low rise historic bits of the city compromised by "landmark" towers.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby what? » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:05 pm

weve been through this before but i agree. clustered areas of high rise make more visual and econnmic sense. It would allow Dublin to develop and still keep the charecter of the city. Paris/ La defence is the classic example of co existence.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Keen » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:18 pm

a boyle wrote:This has me completely confused ... they are currently digging the foundations for the tower . Does anybody know what is going on ?


where did you hear this? in the july 16th report on ddda.ie they were looking for developers who would focus on the street level of the tower as the nearby streets are prone to flooding, so how can the foundation be underway already if there is no developer picked?
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby a boyle » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:27 pm

i was down there a week ago. they are busy digging like mad . in light of the papers i have no idea what they are doing.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Morlan » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:18 pm

Boyler, if you're down there again ask one of the builders what they're doing. It's possible that they are just excavating the whole site in preperation for the new developments.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby a boyle » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:25 pm

Morlan wrote:Boyler, if you're down there again ask one of the builders what they're doing. It's possible that they are just excavating the whole site in preperation for the new developments.



i 'll consider it. i don't think the local natives are particularly gratefull for every tom dick and harry going by to have a look, and these natives are particularly mobile , and. ... ... ...
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Keen » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:32 pm

a boyle wrote:i 'll consider it. i don't think the local natives are particularly gratefull for every tom dick and harry going by to have a look, and these natives are particularly mobile , and. ... ... ...


well if they're excavating the site, i wonder who is paying for it? unless these broadsheet reports are well out of date...
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby The Denouncer » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:45 pm

They're looking for ancient books of psalms and other religious curios
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby a boyle » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:46 pm

perhaps the site is split into different parts ?
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Keen » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:05 pm

The Denouncer wrote:They're looking for ancient books of psalms and other religious curios


more likely bodies encased in concrete :p

did anyone see this image of both u2 and point towers?
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby The Denouncer » Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:18 pm

They will look great flanking the Sam Beckett Bridge.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby phil » Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:36 pm

The Samuel Beckett Bridge will be a bit further down the quays as far as I know.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Peter Fitz » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:32 pm

Point Tower, eh gotham city anyone ?? judging by that render anyway !

any more detailed renders ?
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Morlan » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:20 pm

Anyone got a bigger picture of that Point Village render above?
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Rusty Cogs » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:27 pm

Morlan wrote:Anyone got a bigger picture of that Point Village render above?


You can have a look on the (Beano comic inspired) website http://www.pointvillage.ie They've got balloons !!!
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby GregF » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:22 pm

ha ha, good one ....that's hilarious!

(...a place of worship and all there.)
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Keen » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:28 pm

GregF wrote:ha ha, good one ....that's hilarious!

Hardly an apt advertisment for something supposedly to be the bees nees


thanks for the link RC...

Well it looks better than the original image...glass elevators? I like the slanted roof, (i hate flat roofs on tallish buildings)

Pity we can't get a larger image of the rendering, to give us a proper look instead of the cartoony image on the site :)
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby The Denouncer » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:44 pm

I always said there should be more advertising blimps in the city
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Morlan » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:56 pm

I wonder who's going to grab the TV studio at the top with the fine views.

I see the East Link roundabout is getting a makeover too.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby urbanisto » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:01 pm

Considering how dramtic and realistic many development proposals can look, this one looks plain silly...perhaps refreshingly so.
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby jackwade » Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:56 pm

Huh? Whats this proposed U2 experience then?
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:33 pm

For me this is the most interesting part of this:

It is expected that the successful development team will be selected in 2007 and the construction of the Tower will commence in 2008. The closing date for receipt of Request for Proposals is 12 noon, on the 16th October 2006.


so the building won't start for two years at least....
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby kite » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:39 pm

[quote="Paul Clerkin"]Docks tower could rise higher
Frank McDonald, Environment Editor
A competition for the tower was jointly sponsored in 2003 by the authority and U2, whose new recording studio is to be on top of it. This will replace their old studios in a warehouse on Hanover Quay, which is to be demolished.

:eek: Whatever about the pros or cons of the U2 tower does anybody feel that knocking the old recording studio on Hanover Quay is akin to knocking the Cavern in Liverpool or the Sun Studio in Memphis?
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby lostexpectation » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:29 pm

I heard the want to move the tower to holland
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Re: Vertigo? U2 tower to be taller

Postby GrahamH » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:07 am

Where lostexpectation?

jimg wrote:Why? I really dislike the aesthetics and even the idea of 'landmark' standalone towers which dominate entire areas of the city. Someone in the other thread posted a series of photos of European cities which have tall buildings. The ones which adopted a "clustered" approach to tall buildings - Frankfurt, Paris, etc. - are far more appealling than having individual towers dispersed around a generally low rise city. I'd rather have this, the Point "tower", Heuston Gate, the Barrow St./Thomas St./Tara St./etc. proposals all bunched together somewhere down the docks instead of ending up with having the low rise historic bits of the city compromised by "landmark" towers.


Fully agreed with you jimg - Frankfurt in particular looks fantastic. What you quoted above referred to the fact that we're never going to get such a cluster in Dublin, not in the medium term anyway, so the best we can hope for is a number of 'landmark' towers sited relatively coherently and as closely together as possible in the Docklands, preferably standing guard close to the river, in and around the Grand Canal Dock area.
My advocating of such buildings must certainly did not refer to a scattergun approach across the city! - alas precisely what we seem to be getting :(
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