Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby CraigFay » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:40 pm

Couple of weeks ago :)

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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby missarchi » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:35 am

I look at that picture and I imagine a bunch of pirates about to invade Ireland and put up a jolly roger flag on the new bridge... And escape while flying foxing it down the wires

The north and south glass cylinders have a strange connection...
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby poukai » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:29 pm

And depending on the scale, that thing on the right is either a nearby seagull or a Klingon bird of prey in the distance. :D
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby lostexpectation » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:09 pm

from the air thanks to via @robinb and the irish coast guard

http://www.flickr.com/photos/r1g2b3/3751945332/in/set-72157621679888789/
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby tommyt » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:40 pm

lostexpectation wrote:from the air thanks to via @robinb and the irish coast guard

http://www.flickr.com/photos/r1g2b3/3751945332/in/set-72157621679888789/


Have to say I am really warming to this bridge, dunno if the function will dim my fondness for the form but it is the best 'intervention' in my mental map of Dublin in my lifetime. I had visitors from the basque country last week and was proud to point out something that looks like it will work in rebranding (awful term I know, please frogive me) the east of the city centre. How deeply unimpressed they were (and how deeply indigant was meself) about the pig's mickey that's been made of reinventing the docks.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Peter Fitz » Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:43 am

Bit of a height diference it seems! from the indo ..

By Jerome Reilly


Sunday July 26 2009

IT looks, to the casual observer, like a bridge too high. Now elegantly draped across the Liffey, the Samuel Beckett Bridge appears to tower over the quayside roadway on the southside of the river.

The vertiginous drop of more than a metre from bridge to tarmac on Sir John Rogerson's Quay has some of the few remaining high- flyers in the IFSC wondering if their low-slung sports saloons will survive the trip from docklands to Dalkey.

But the loftiness of the new bridge, due to be opened next year, is part of a cunning plan and not a monumental blunder, Dublin City Council insists.

"The constructed level of the bridge's south abutment is in accordance with its design levels, which specifically allows for sufficient headroom under the bridge to accommodate marine craft on the river," project manager John Flanagan explained.

He added that the current construction works will introduce a carefully designed gradual incline between the bridge deck level and existing ground levels. That may sound suspiciously like a ramp, but the council are convinced that drivers will not notice the drop when they leave the bridge.

The 120m bridge, which is 48m high, will link Guild Street on the northside with Sir John Rogerson's Quay on the southside -- west of Cardiff Lane/Macken Street.

Dr Santiago Calatrava Valls, considered one of the world's great architects, designed the Beckett Bridge. The bridge will have four traffic lanes, cycle tracks and footpaths, and can facilitate bus and light rail in the future.

- Jerome Reilly
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby missarchi » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:38 am

Peter Fitz wrote:Dr Santiago Calatrava Valls, considered one of the world's great architects, designed the Beckett Bridge. The bridge will have four traffic lanes, cycle tracks and footpaths, and can facilitate bus and light rail in the future. - Jerome Reilly


Since when have the RPA planned no cables? I'm struggling to see how it will work?
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby weehamster » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:23 pm

There won't be any trams going over this bridge.

The design goes back to the 'Platform for Change' proposal for a line starting near the docklands station and heading to Lucan via a route that's was parallel to the grand canal.
Since the RPA have now chosen a different route for a line to Lucan, this line heading over the bridge is dead.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Blacktop » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:40 pm

My apologies if none of this is new.

A few things I know about the bridge....

1 So far at least three swans have come to grief on the cables.
2 The Luas rails are not going in though there is provision for them if they change their minds!
3 The surfacing was finished last Sunday! Hooray!
4 There will be two lanes for traffic each side at about 3.25 metres wide and "footpaths" on
both sides.
5 The ends are currently about 2 feet higher than the surrounding road levels.
6 Will try to post pics of surfacing if they come out OK
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby alonso » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:24 am

i think one of the lanes on each side is a bus lane?
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Blacktop » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:07 pm

My understanding is that, due to load restrictions, the outer lanes cannot take the strain of a bus lane.

The main spans of the bridge have been surfaced with heavy duty mastic asphalt to accept heavy traffic but the outside lanes have not for this very reason.

So.....pedestrians and cycles on the outside buses and others in the main centre spans.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Blacktop » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:35 pm

1 The new surfacing going in showing the missing Luas rail on the seaward side of the bridge looking to the South Bank.....
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2 this is how it was done.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby gunter » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:22 pm

Blacktop wrote:My understanding is that, due to load restrictions, the outer lanes cannot take the strain of a bus lane.


You're joking, right?
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby alonso » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:41 pm

yeh jaysus, you have to be joking. I mean, come on.... does that mean buses can't overtake on the bridge? No you have to be joking. Are heavy trucks banned?
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby GrahamH » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:00 pm

Sure trams are heavier anyway...?
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby poukai » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:14 am

Hang on, I thought there was no plan to take the Luas across this bridge anyway? The pavement work on the south side is making good progress although the road layout is still looking a bit strange with the big slope and the sharp corner off/onto the bridge from SJRQ, but I guess we'll get used to it.

Can't wait for the bridge to be finished, finally M&S will be a viable lunch option :D
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Peter Fitz » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:20 am

the point being poukai that the bridge was constructed with integrated tram tracks, whether trams go across it in the future or not - so surely it can manage the weight of a bus on its outer lanes.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Blacktop » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:36 am

See picture showing (not showing?) the missing Luas rail. (viewed from north end looking south, leaning tower of Guinness behind camera)
The two lanes on each side of the bridge spine (the luas rail lane and the one adjoining it to the left) are for motor traffic. 4 lanes in total
To the outside of these lanes, pedestrian and cycle lanes (footpaths?) on the extreme outside edges of the bridge behind barriers to protect from traffic. (2 in total.)
Hope this helps to clear it up a little.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby poukai » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:10 pm

Peter Fitz wrote:the point being poukai that the bridge was constructed with integrated tram tracks, whether trams go across it in the future or not

Oh, right, missed that point...
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Blacktop » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:47 pm

Ahem.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Blacktop » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:58 am

The southbound carriageway looking north.

The northbound carriageway showing the footpath / cycleway and crash rails going in.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Rusty Cogs » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:27 pm

Has this thing got a completion/opening date ?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1006/dublin.html
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby kefu » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:59 pm

According to RTE, an early opening of some time around December 3-10 is predicted.
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby Blacktop » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:22 am

The timber handrail on the edge rail.

and a worm's eye view!
(Just send the photography prize to the bridge and I'll collect it later!)
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Re: Macken St Bridge - Santiago Calatrava

Postby StephenC » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:59 am

Lots of feature lighting I see...shame it will last about 2 years before the maintenance dries up.
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