Boundary wall related question?

Boundary wall related question?

Postby JacobsSlave » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:57 pm

Hoping someone can shed some knowledge on me...

A builder has built a poor excuse for a boundary wall 3 feet from my boundary fence... it is very poor in appearance.. the wall is built along the contours of the site which to say the least is not level. This has resulted in the walls appearance being out of plumb in every direction.. apart from the appearance, it seems structurally unsound.. is there any specific legislation etc that governs the levelness of a wall and the mortar joints (which vary from 20 to 50mm in thickness).

Is there also leg etc that governs if a wall is built too close to someones boundary wall, the owner must be consulted or something to that effect. The slip of land between the site boundary wall and my boundary fence is also over grown and rodents have now started to infest it... it will not be handed over to me to tend (to be honest dont want more grass to cut)... i've attached pic of wall

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Re: Boundary wall related question?

Postby onq » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:08 am

It normally should be rendered or capped to comply with the permission as that is the standard required and you should check the documents.
If the situation is likely to create spaces which could harbour vermin the EHO might address it.
The photos of the piers suggest they may not be properly bonded to the wall and the local authority engineer may comment on this.
It looks so badly built it may be in breach of its permission, but building control may not touch it as its not a building proper.

HTH

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Re: Boundary wall related question?

Postby Bob Dole » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:22 pm

onq wrote:It normally should be rendered or capped to comply with the permission as that is the standard required and you should check the documents.

Walls to the side need not be rendered for exemption.
I doubt they need capping either - from an exempt development perspective.

It looks so badly built it may be in breach of its permission, but building control may not touch it as its not a building proper.

In my experience they have.
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Re: Boundary wall related question?

Postby JacobsSlave » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:22 pm

onq wrote:It normally should be rendered or capped to comply with the permission as that is the standard required and you should check the documents.
If the situation is likely to create spaces which could harbour vermin the EHO might address it.
The photos of the piers suggest they may not be properly bonded to the wall and the local authority engineer may comment on this.
It looks so badly built it may be in breach of its permission, but building control may not touch it as its not a building proper.

HTH

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Cheers... They r gonna tie in two blocks of the pier at the top into the wall, but not fully into the wall... it is hollow block and will only sit inside the hollow of the block (that'll really be secure lol)... enforcement dont want to touch it... they said ewith the new piers it is a sound structure...(builder and enforcement seemed very buddy buddy).
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Re: Boundary wall related question?

Postby Paul Clerkin » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:45 pm

That has got to be one of the worst walls I've seen - not that I spend a lot of time in housing estates, but it's incredibly bad.
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Re: Boundary wall related question?

Postby Solo » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:33 am

JacobsSlave wrote:Hoping someone can shed some knowledge on me...

A builder has built a poor excuse for a boundary wall Snipped

Is there also leg etc that governs if a wall is built too close to someones boundary wall, the owner must be consulted or something to that effect.snipped


Very poor looking wall. There is regulation for the construction of a garden/boundary wall due to the number of these walls over the years that have fallen over and in some cases these have killed people mostly children. The LA building control officer should be contacted as that officer has the power to condemn the wall if it is unsound. Walls can look as bad as the one you photographed yet be structurally sound and fit for purpose. In saying that I would never in a million years have allowed so much as a dog house to be so badly built. But if you need a cert for it I know a few Architects who would oblige.

As to your second question regarding the closeness of the wall to your property, sorry but they can build right up to the boundary. As they have not you can in time annex this portion of land and if you remove your fence lawn the section of ground or grow plants and if you use it for 12years to the exclusion of all others then you could claim adverse possession.
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Re: Boundary wall related question?

Postby DOC » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:35 pm

Solo wrote:Very poor looking wall. There is regulation for the construction of a garden/boundary wall due to the number of these walls over the years that have fallen over and in some cases these have killed people mostly children. The LA building control officer should be contacted as that officer has the power to condemn the wall if it is unsound.


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That is the maddest wall I have ever seen!

Re: finish of wall - exempt development regulations says:

Every wall other than a dry or natural stone wall bounding any garden or other space shall be capped and the face of any wall of concrete or concrete block (other than blocks with decorative finish) which will be visible from any road, path or public area, including public open space, shall be rendered or plastered.

If the wall was part of an overall planning permission, I doubt it was granted planning permission as a bare block wall, uncapped. You may have to look through the planning conditions and/or the planning file and drawings to see what was specified.

As well as contacting building control, I would seperatley contact the planning enforcemnet section.
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