Eglinton Street Tower, Cork

[Pug]

waterford is great you said?

impossible - martin cullen is from there

[mickeydocs]

Arrogant? Me thinks your a troll. Give up the trolling - its sad...

Oh and yes you have a very big chip on your shoulder. Your in denial....

got a plan to go bush drinking with your scanger mates on O'Connell street later?

[darkman]

got a plan to go bush drinking with your scanger mates on O'Connell street later?

You have issues thats all I will say and maybe leave it to a mod to take a look at the provocative nature of your posts.

[who_me]

The tower will have clear planar glazing from floors 10 to 17 throughout so that motorists on the South Link can view the North Ridge.Remember everyone in Cork is entitled to an uninterrupted view of St.Finbarrs Cathedral and Shandon.

Sheesh.. is everyone a comedian these days?

The link road is the route along which lot of new visitors approach Cork (from the airport), and as you come around the bend in the link road with the hill in front of you it's a pretty impressive introduction to the city. I'm just saying it's a pity that may be lost.

Keep your panties on, 'tis not like I'm saying we should knock the thing, or shift it 4 feet to the left. Though I'm tempted now, just out of spite!

[tfarmer]

but seriously is it a very stylish affair?

[tfarmer]

lol i just checked the http://www.theelysian.ie site now thats just taking the p*ss with the images of people with shocked looks on their faces ... i was expecting speech bubbles in their mouths proclaming BEEEJESUSSS will ya look at that...ffs

[AndrewP]

That's the funniest property hard-sell I've seen in ages. Nearly as good as Belmayne's "gorgeous living" soft porn ad.
I take it we can expect multiple pileups on the approach road as drivers literally faint in astonishment at the sight of a 17-floor block of flats. IN CORK LIKE!!! JAYSUS!!!!

[who_me]

To answer my own question previously - yes, the penthouse does actually go a bit over the lift shaft - 5m over, according to an article on the site.

[mickeydocs]

This is an interesting article as I didn't realize the County Hall is 8 metres higher than Liberty Hall: http://www.theelysian.ie/Enter/Publicity/Default.aspx?img=HatsOff.jpg&pdf=HatsOff.jpg

I paid a visit to Belfast recently, and one really has the impression that Belfast is a larger city than Dublin.
How come Belfast has a much more interesting skyline than Dublin. Why is Dublin so bland compared to other cities of similar size such as Liverpool and Manchester (although Greater Manchester claims a population of 3.5 million)?

[Spinal Tap]

This is an interesting article as I didn't realize the County Hall is 8 metres higher than Liberty Hall: http://www.theelysian.ie/Enter/Publicity/Default.aspx?img=HatsOff.jpg&pdf=HatsOff.jpg

I paid a visit to Belfast recently, and one really has the impression that Belfast is a larger city than Dublin.
How come Belfast has a much more interesting skyline than Dublin. Why is Dublin so bland compared to other cities of similar size such as Liverpool and Manchester (although Greater Manchester claims a population of 3.5 million)?

Belfast seems bigger allright as Dublin needs to pedestrianise College Green etc for more open space.
I worked on some of the original Dudlin Docklands in the mid-90's and the lack of ambition there has given us a bland waterfront.

Massive missed opportunity which we will have to live with for a long time.

[damnedarchitect]

Ehh, are we talking about the same Belfast?

It in no way seems bigger than Dublin.

I love Belfast - very handsome city, but the whole thing about it is that it's TINY.

[phil]

I worked on some of the original Dudlin Docklands in the mid-90's and the lack of ambition there has given us a bland waterfront.

Massive missed opportunity which we will have to live with for a long time.

I thought one of the reasons that the earlier waterfront buildings in the Dublin docklands were the scale they were had more to do with the economic climate of the time rather than ambition? Also, whilst I am sure I am alone in this view, I actually don't mind the relative uniformity of height in Dublin's docklands. I am, in particular, a fan of Clarion Quay apartments.

http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/northcity/quays/north_wall/clarion_quay_apartments.html

I also quite like some of the newer buildings on the south quays.

[jdivision]

There is a tall buildings survey underway in docklands in Dublin so developers are leaving buildings at that height but putting foundations etc in place to allow a substantial increase in height when it is finally allowed.

[phil]

There is a tall buildings survey underway in docklands in Dublin so developers are leaving buildings at that height but putting foundations etc in place to allow a substantial increase in height when it is finally allowed.

This has become quite common practice lately hasn't it? Interesting approach. I am sure once the U2 tower finally gets under way we could start to see dramatic changes in the area in general.

[paul h]

........................... and one really has the impression that Belfast is a larger city than Dublin.............

Cork city - pop.119.143 (2006 census)
metro cork - pop.274,000

Belfast city - pop.277,391 (2001 census)
Belfast metro - pop.579,554

Dublin City - pop.505,739 (2006 census)
Dublin metro - pop 1.6 million (estimataed by CSO to reach 2.1 million by 2021)

So in summary:
Cork = teeny tiny
Belfast = tiny
Dublin = small to medium

[darkman]

This has become quite common practice lately hasn't it? Interesting approach. I am sure once the U2 tower finally gets under way we could start to see dramatic changes in the area in general.

The 34 storey 'Watchtower' near the Point Depot is already under construction so when the lift shaft starts going up for that and thoughts of Belfast or Cork having the tallest building on the island will be consigned to the dustbin of history. What will be interesting is if this starts the ball rolling for more skyscrapers. I think once people see the U2 tower and watchtower going up they will probrably realise thsat skyscrapers can be attractive on the skyline and is one solution to endless sprawl which will be a combination of things. Highrise is certainly part of that.

[Spinal Tap]

Dublin City - pop.505,739 (2006 census)
Dublin metro - pop 1.6 million (estimataed by CSO to reach 2.1 million by 2021)




Thats why we have moved to Cork from Dublin.
60,000 people trying to walk Dun Laoighre Pier or the Vico Road on a Sunday when in 25 - 35mins we could be in Kinsale or Inchydoney beach.

Phew.............

[Keen]

Cork city - pop.119.143 (2006 census)
metro cork - pop.274,000

Belfast city - pop.277,391 (2001 census)
Belfast metro - pop.579,554

Dublin City - pop.505,739 (2006 census)
Dublin metro - pop 1.6 million (estimataed by CSO to reach 2.1 million by 2021)

So in summary:
Cork = teeny tiny
Belfast = tiny
Dublin = small to medium

eh, Dublin doesn't have a metro yet..that's a whole other thread LOL

ok sorry

[browser]

Cork city - pop.119.143 (2006 census)
metro cork - pop.274,000

Belfast city - pop.277,391 (2001 census)
Belfast metro - pop.579,554

Dublin City - pop.505,739 (2006 census)
Dublin metro - pop 1.6 million (estimataed by CSO to reach 2.1 million by 2021)

So in summary:
Cork = teeny tiny
Belfast = tiny
Dublin = small to medium

Seriously can we lose the Cork / Dublin shite (and that applies to posters from both necks of the wood). Yes Dublin is much bigger, yes quality of life is better in Cork and yes one is a crap small international city and the other is a crap medium international city. Can we now concentrate, on the correct threads, with suggestions on how to improve both.

[mickeydocs]

agreed

[AndrewP]

Would also be usefeul to lose the infantile "my city's better than your city cos it's got high rises" obsession.

[corcaighboy]

well said browser and andrew p.
Also, just on the issue of adding extra floors to a high rise at a later date...is that really feasible and has it been done before in Ireland? I presume it would mean an extra 3 or 4 floors only or am I wrong. I guess the aesthetics may change somewhat. Certainly a good idea and it displays some degree of forward thinking.

[browser]

well said browser and andrew p.
Also, just on the issue of adding extra floors to a high rise at a later date...is that really feasible and has it been done before in Ireland? I presume it would mean an extra 3 or 4 floors only or am I wrong. I guess the aesthetics may change somewhat. Certainly a good idea and it displays some degree of forward thinking.

Neither were high rise but relatively good jobs were done adding extra floors to a building off Kevin St in Dublin (on corner with Wexford St I think?) and onto the College of Commerce in Cork. I appreciate this is a different principle though.

[paul h]

............... just on the issue of adding extra floors to a high rise at a later date...is that really feasible and has it been done before in Ireland? I presume it would mean an extra 3 or 4 floors only or am I wrong. I guess the aesthetics may change somewhat. Certainly a good idea and it displays some degree of forward thinking.

http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=5132

[who_me]

Neither were high rise but relatively good jobs were done adding extra floors to a building off Kevin St in Dublin (on corner with Wexford St I think?) and onto the College of Commerce in Cork. I appreciate this is a different principle though.

I thought I heard there were problems with the College of Commerce extension soon after?