noel o'gara wrote:Beautiful sites and fields are available for about ten to twenty thousand euros but you cant get permission to build on them.
Saucy Jack wrote:Head to Caherdaniel in Co.Kerry or the road between Killarney & Tralee where everyone has more or less built what they want where they want or Donegal and have destroyed the landscape.
It must have been great living in Oireland before 1963,no slums or bad housing ghettoes anywhere.
Angelas Ashes anyone ?
Head to Houston Texas where you could have a 60 storey office building next to a single storey shack and an oil refinery with housing developments.
You might like it there.
This thread could be a blockbuster ?
noel o'gara wrote:All the beautiful villages and towns of Ireland were developed or planned by land owners prior to the socialist dreamers taking control of all planning in 1963.
Now they spend more time trying to preserve the past because they know that their own developments cant match the developments of owner developers plans.
Market forces dictated the developments needed rather than council planners in back offices dreaming about utopia.
They deceived the electorate in 1963 when they brought in those planning laws claiming that the countryside was being defaced with ugly road signs etc. Ireland was in an economic depression at that time with emigration the main industry. Nobody was building and nobody had money.
Since then the council dreamers have built Moyross in Limerick and Ballymun in Dublin to name a few white elephants.
alonso wrote:is this tool back again? Jaysus!
any chance your "duty of care" to your D6 property may be enacted?
pippin101 wrote:OP: Right wing rant.
The reason Ballymun etc. produced disasters was due to inadequate understanding of sociological forces and architectural principles. According to your logic, if they all moved out to meadows in the countryside, they would have been better off. Nonse.
The problem in Ireland is not land zoning. It is known that there is no shortage of zoned land in Ireland. 460000 houses is around 12 years worth of housebuilding at moderate (40,000/year) rates.
The dilemma is exactly the opposite: we have insufficient control over what, when and where people can build. What we need is much more control, not less.
The high prices farmers charge for land for development is due to collusion. I remember when they started building the motorways in the early 2000s the IFA got together and all the farmers held out for more money from the NRA - they saw that large amounts of land was needed by the NRA so they colluded to make it more expensive. The NRA gave in and now we have farmers selling a hectare for a 1,000,000 euro. That's where your expensive sites are coming from.
You're just upset cause the council wouldn't let you turn a city park into a car park. A surface car park! In a city centre area! Go back to your bungalow in Meath that blocks the view of a scenic area.