Dublin Chamber of Commerce poll on planning problems

Dublin Chamber of Commerce poll on planning problems

Postby hutton » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:29 pm

Sorry Paul to have to give a link to an alternative site :D

Anyhow Dublin Chamber of Commerce are conducting a poll entitled "What’s the biggest challenge to the Planning Process?"

The 3 options are:
  1. Transparency
  2. Lack of Resources
  3. Delays


It's a toss up between transparency and lack of resources for me, though ultimately I opted for lack of resources...

Tbh I did think that delays would be listed as the no. 1 problem - particularly after the Ibec/FF-type planning/ An Taisce/ bashing over the last few years..... But, Shock, horror! Transparency at 39% came out on top, with lack of resources at 29% only just behind delays at 31%.

Anyway have your say if you like:

http://www.dublinchamber.ie/
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Re: Dublin Chamber of Commerce poll on planning problems

Postby ctesiphon » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:41 am

Most problems with the planning system stem from the lack of resources, including delays and perceptions of a lack of transparency.

What was the point of the survey? And why is the Chamber of Commerce involved?

Also, from yesterday's IT:

Architects rate Sligo as best council for planning
FRANK McDONALD, Environment Editor

Eighty per cent of architects believe that planning decisions made by local authorities do not support good quality design, according to a survey commissioned by the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland (RIAI).

In the survey, carried out by Behaviour and Attitudes, architects rated Sligo County Council as the best planning service provider and Clare County Council as the poorest in terms of dealing with planning applications.

RIAI president Seán Ó Laoire said the lack of consistency among local authorities “is wasting the resources of architects who have lodged planning applications as well as that of the local authorities themselves.

“The survey results show that we are not in a position to deliver quality in the built environment with current planning practices”, he said.

The greatest criticism was that planners were under-qualified or under-trained, whille 86 per cent felt the system was not good at coping with changes relating to the energy performance, accessibility and sustainability of buildings.

Fifty-eight per cent of respondents agreed that inconsistent advice at pre-planning meetings results in unnecessary redesign work, and over 60 per cent overall said it was up to the Department of the Environment to improve the planning process.

Just over half of the architects expressed concern that only 14 per cent of the local authorities they dealt with in the last two years provided an on-the-spot validation service.

Under the 2000 Planning Act, as Mr Ó Laoire noted, a system of checking planning applications for compliance with submission requirements – to ensure better quality applications – was introduced and this is referred to as validation.

“However, in reality, the validation process has proven to be more time consuming and expensive for many applicants and the Local Authorities than the actual planning permission process itself”.

The survey, which covered 392 RIAI members, found that about one third of all planning applications made by them were in the Dublin region, with 22 per cent in the rest of Leinster, 26 per cent in Munster and the rest in Connaught/Ulster.

© 2008 irishtimes.com


Architects dissatisfied with the planning system? HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!! :rolleyes:
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Re: Dublin Chamber of Commerce poll on planning problems

Postby ctesiphon » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:07 am

Good old Irish Times- showing a firm commitment to recycling. ;)

From today's IT:

Planners waste architects' time
Frank McDonald Environment Correspondent

Sligo is best, Clare worst local authority for dealing with planning applications says RIAI survey of 392 architects

EIGHTY PER CENT of architects believe that planning decisions made by local authorities do not support good quality design, according to a survey commissioned by the Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland (RIAI).

"The survey results show that we are not in a position to deliver quality in the built environment with current planning practices," RIAI president Seán Ó Laoire said, adding that it was up to the Department of the Environment to improve things.

He identified lack of consistency among local authorities as the main problem, saying this was "wasting the resources of architects who have lodged planning applications as well as that of the local authorities themselves". In the survey of 392 architects, carried out by Behaviour and Attitudes, Sligo County Council was rated as the best planning service provider and Clare County Council as the poorest in terms of dealing with planning applications.

The greatest criticism was that planners were underqualified or under-trained, while 86 per cent felt the system was not good at coping with changes relating to the energy performance, accessibility and sustainability of buildings. Fifty-eight per cent agreed that inconsistent advice at pre-planning meetings resulted in unnecessary redesign work, while just over half expressed concern that only 14 per cent of the local authorities provided an on-the-spot validation service.

Under the 2000 Planning Act, as Mr Ó Laoire noted, a system of checking planning applications for compliance with submission requirements - aimed at ensuring better quality applications - was introduced and this is referred to as validation.

"However, in reality, the validation process has proven to be more time consuming and expensive for many applicants and the local authorities than the actual planning permission process itself," the RIAI president complained.

The survey found that about one-third of all planning applications made by the architects who responded - some 15 per cent of the RIAI membership - were in Dublin, with 22 per cent in the rest of Leinster, 26 per cent in Munster and the rest in Connaught/Ulster.

The 10 best performing local authorities in order of rank were Sligo (6.23), Longford (6.2), Cork City (6.12), Limerick city (6.0), Limerick county (6.0), Monaghan (5.95), Fingal (5.94), Dublin city (5.9), Drogheda borough (5.81) and Louth (5.74).

The 10 worst performing local authorities, as scored by RIAI members, were Clare (3.82), Kildare (3.94), Wicklow (4.0), Kilkenny (4.03), Wexford borough (4.47), Leitrim (4.65), Cork (4.6), Westmeath (4.6), Kerry (4.88) and Offaly (4.9).

The performance of other local authorities in the Greater Dublin area were ranked as follows: South Dublin (5.73), Dún Laoghaire- Rathdown (5.33) and Meath (4.51) - all lagging some way behind Fingal and Dublin City.

© 2008 The Irish Times


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/property/2008/0717/1216073182445.html
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