Any know when this house was built

Any know when this house was built

Postby cameramonkey » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:23 pm

Hi,
can anyone tell me when they think this house was built. its 2 story with a garret. its got quite a high pitched roof and I noticed that it has granite lintels above all doors and windows inside

.http://www.flickr.com/photos/39454894@N02/3830892516/
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby GrahamH » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:47 pm

Hi cameramonkey. What a fabulous strong farmhouse, in pristine original condition. It looks to be of 1860-70. date. Where it is can we ask?
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby cameramonkey » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:52 pm

Hi Graham, thanks for that. its in County Carlow near Muine Beag. It has some of the back windows bricked up(stoned up really) , do you know the reason why this would have been done,also it has bars on only 2 downstairs windows but not the others. Why do you give the dates you do? Is it a standard design of the time? How would u describe the style?a local man told me that there was a house on that property prior to those dates. It has quite a few outhouses that look of similar vintage.
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby teak » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:46 pm

Why not start by asking at the local planning office.
Or at a local heritage-interested architect's office ?
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby reddy » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:56 pm

If you check historical maps of the area you can pinpoint a rough era when it first appeared.
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby cameramonkey » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:20 pm

Hi Reddy and teak,
i had a look at the maps that are on line with griffiths valuation and the house and out buildings are there, I think the map is from about 1860. I cant find any maps that are earlier.
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby GrahamH » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:42 pm

cameramonkey, there are at least two widely available maps which will help you. The 1837 OS map, and the revision of same around 1847, will provide invaluable information. These are often available at the local county library, but failing that, telephone the Trinity College Map Library, tell them what area you are investigating, make an appointment, drop in, and they'll almost certainly have the exact pages waiting and ready for you to inspect. Free of charge (unless you want to make copies, in which case bring the cheque book).

The house is extremely robust with an appearance of unnecessary weight, making me wonder if it may be early 19th century. If the window glazing patterns are entirely original, the house is no earlier than 1860. If the ground floor sashes are later replacements, the upper floor windows may date to about 1840.

Of course bear in mind that a structure indicated on a map may not be the same structure that is there today. By the very practice of houses being built in advantageous positions, it often made sense when extending or rebuilding to knock the existing house, recyling both the site and the materials. Sustainability in its truest sense.
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby cameramonkey » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:05 pm

hi,
thanks for all of that, I will report back when I find out more.
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby tungstentee » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:59 pm

i had a look at similar farm structures in the niah survey of carlow and found a similar lookin structure

between 1780 and 1800

http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=CW®no=10301704
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby cameramonkey » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:07 pm

Hi Tungstentee,
Thanks. Very nice house. They both do have a similar look. Ballinvalley house is perhaps 6kms as the crow flies from the one I photographed, maybe the same builder? The setting of the houses also look quite alike.
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Re: Any know when this house was built

Postby cameramonkey » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:45 pm

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