Access rights versus Safety rights

Access rights versus Safety rights

Postby millennium » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:27 pm

Two deaths in recent years.
Do we close it or make it safe?
The ferrymen charge a fee so why don't those who are entrusted with managing this historic site?
http://www.archiseek.com/content/attachment.php?attachmentid=9782&d=1247124571
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Re: Access rights versus Safety rights

Postby missarchi » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:18 pm

Think Everest...

I'm guessing you have more chance of dying in a car crash...
Or dying in brawl outside a pub.
Next there will be walking tests before your allowed to walk...
There is no such thing as safe... only safer...

Do we close all the roads in Dublin because cyclists or pedestrians got killed?
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Re: Access rights versus Safety rights

Postby henno » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:38 am

what are you on about??? :confused: :confused:

built elements that are designed and engineered MUST conform to best practise...
best practise is lessons learnt from the past!!

natural or 'historical' elements exist because of what they are....

why in gods name are you confusing the two....

was the wright brothers plane 'safe'???
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Re: Access rights versus Safety rights

Postby missarchi » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:14 am

Ok henno what is best practice with regards to escalator placement?
And how is this covered in the building regulations?

and how do escalators comply with part m?

How many people died in 2008 because of not following building regulations?
How many people died in 2008 following building regulations?
Or was this down to human incompetence?
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Re: Access rights versus Safety rights

Postby millennium » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:00 am

Obviously you wouldn't put balustrading around the edge of the Cliffs of Moher or the Grand Canyon and I take the point:
"There is no such thing as safe... only safer..."
However, comparing the safety of travelling by machine with that of traversing the steps on the Skelligg Rock is somewhat disingenuous.
The Skelligg Rock is one of only two Irish sites which are on the UNESCO World Heritage List.
The following comment comes from the Unesco website

"The protection, management, authenticity and integrity of properties are also important considerations"

http://whc.unesco.org/en/criteria/
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Re: Access rights versus Safety rights

Postby wearnicehats » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:49 am

missarchi wrote:Ok henno what is best practice with regards to escalator placement?
And how is this covered in the building regulations?

and how do escalators comply with part m?

How many people died in 2008 because of not following building regulations?
How many people died in 2008 following building regulations?
Or was this down to human incompetence?


are you suggesting that the steps be replaced by escalators? only explanation for that cosmic shift in thread direction.
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