tenderme.ie - architectural services

tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby SirRaymondMang » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:03 pm

Has anyone tried this website to get work? I have tried it recently but with no sucess. Am I being undercut by people doing them as nixers for half the price an office needs to charge to break even? I also have a nagging doubt as to whether some of the jobs ever proceed.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby reddy » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:39 pm

Tried a few myself but no success either and I thought I'd quoted very keenly. I came to the conclusion that some people must be tendering for next to nothing but then somone pointed out that there's no means of verifying the veracity of any of the advertisments. Could just be Ben Dunne sittin in his office dreaming up house extensions in Stillorgan!!

It'd be interesting to hear if anyone has gotten work from it.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby parka » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:39 pm

I'll just ring that premium rate phone number?

Too many of these sites popping up recently.

I would say the site is making the cash as there is no verification of who is winning the work.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby parka » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:44 pm

Did anyone sign up for the one the RIAI was promoting?
Can't remember what it was called...............just remember it cost €99 to join :rolleyes:
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby SirRaymondMang » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:53 am

No we didn't. Why can't the RIAI actually offer something for free to their members?
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby bitasean » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:04 am

It would be great if the RIAI came out and publicly denounced the thing, that way people/Ben D would know that real architects couldnt be arsed wasting their time on such crap. Incidentally we've replied to several ads - all to no avail, and I have yet to hear of anyone getting work from this site.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby parka » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:30 am

SirRaymondMang wrote:Why can't the RIAI actually offer something for free to their members?


I ask myself the same question.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby parka » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:32 am

bitasean wrote:It would be great if the RIAI came out and publicly denounced the thing, that way people/Ben D would know that real architects couldnt be arsed wasting their time on such crap.


Sadly, Architects are wasting their money on any leads they can find these days.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby missarchi » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:55 am

http://www.worldarchitecturefestival.com

might be case who is going to pay 500 euro to enter a experimental project...
That must have been conceived in 2008...
That says a lot about Ireland's future...
I have to say a lot of the public bodies in Ireland are thumbing there two fingers to progress and value for money...
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby SirRaymondMang » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:14 am

parka wrote:Sadly, Architects are wasting their money on any leads they can find these days.

Can you expand on this? What are the solutions to getting new work? Change profession?
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby parka » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:26 pm

SirRaymondMang wrote:Can you expand on this? What are the solutions to getting new work? Change profession?



This morning I received phonecalls from two sites similar to the above offering me the 'opportunity' to price for projects at a minimal fee. The only opportunities I envisage in this current climate is from recommendations from existing/ past clients, which happened to pay off this morning too.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby henno » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:30 pm

parka wrote:This morning I received phonecalls from two sites similar to the above offering me the 'opportunity' to price for projects at a minimal fee. The only opportunities I envisage in this current climate is from recommendations from existing/ past clients, which happened to pay off this morning too.



i agree.. .these 'umberella' groups are a pariah in any industry in tough economical time when cost i sseen as king...... they have the BER system bottomed out... and now they are trying to do the same to the design professions...

the only thing that can be done is to educate the end user as to teh factors which should be considered when engaging a professional... price should only be one factor.. obviously skillsets and talent should be a much greater factor....
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby SirRaymondMang » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:39 pm

parka wrote:Did anyone sign up for the one the RIAI was promoting?
Can't remember what it was called...............just remember it cost €99 to join :rolleyes:

onelinetradesman.com
has anyone signed up to this? we haven't. I doubt many projects have been obtained through this.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby stephenotoole » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:22 pm

I have used Tenderme.ie to price many jobs.
Most jobs advertised (about 90%) leave very little detail too give an accurate price.So when pricing you either ask for a site visit to give an accurate price ,or you over price,or under price by as much as 50% without you knowing and this causes upset to the client.

But as things are so tight out there I have been pricing to get work without making a profit,just a wage.And all of this on Tenderme.ie .
I have been under pricing jobs by 50% ,which could be priced ,so as just to get a reply phone call.
As of yet I have had no replys.
Also many others I know think this site is of no use of getting work for the following reason.

These are all computer generated tenders,or some people have a lot of time on their hands.
Also this site is about 7 years too late.

As I get most of my work word of mouth, and from Gumtree.ie,
this is not sour grapes,its just mine and others in my circles experiences of Tenderme.ie .
And if Ben Dunne was to say all these Tenders were Not fabricated, he would be calling himself a liar .

So no matter where you look to tender a job ,there will always be cowboys on both sides of the fence.Onlinetrademan is another to steer clear from.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby janmc » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:37 am

SirRaymondMang wrote:No we didn't. Why can't the RIAI actually offer something for free to their members?


It's such a random thing for them to promote on their site too. Who made that decision? And why online tradesman? I find it bizarre.

And not to hijack the thread, but I'm looking for commentson what the RIAI could/should do for their members if anyone is interested. /hijack
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby SirRaymondMang » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:50 pm

stephenotoole wrote:I have used Tenderme.ie to price many jobs.
Most jobs advertised (about 90%) leave very little detail too give an accurate price.So when pricing you either ask for a site visit to give an accurate price ,or you over price,or under price by as much as 50% without you knowing and this causes upset to the client.

But as things are so tight out there I have been pricing to get work without making a profit,just a wage.And all of this on Tenderme.ie .
I have been under pricing jobs by 50% ,which could be priced ,so as just to get a reply phone call.
As of yet I have had no replys.


Exactly my thoughts. I have also contacted tenderme.ie by e-mail asking them some questions about the site but have not had a reply from them.
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby clublands » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:07 pm

Hmm, think there's something dodgy here. I'm new to this forum but am quite familiar with Creative Ireland and the same conversations are happening over there regarding graphic design and web design tenders.....
http://www.creativeireland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26905
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby SirRaymondMang » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:51 pm

Has anyone had any success yet then? It seems that most architectural jobs posted on the website get up to 10 replies. Surely someone must have got work out of it?
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby reddy » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:11 pm

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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby parka » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:47 pm

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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby lady louisa » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:02 pm

SirRaymondMang wrote:onelinetradesman.com
has anyone signed up to this? we haven't. I doubt many projects have been obtained through this.


We have been a member of the onlinetradesmen.com website for the last month and despite tendering for numerous projects we haven't received one phonecall, despite tendering lower and lower each time.

I actually intend ringing up the RIAI to ask them about it as the onlinetradesmen offer a project management service to the general public, check out this link

http://www.onlinetradesmen.com/PropertyOwners/projectmanagement/tabid/423/Default.aspx

Now is it just cynical old me or are they using all their member Architects quotes as a measuring stick to base their "competitive rates" on....

The RIAI website said it was €99 per annum, it actually costs €68 per quarter and it automatically debits your account when you are up for renewal.

Its a very amateur website that is very confusing and hard to navigate, even when you are a member.

I too would love to hear if anyone else has any experience of it.
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Postby missarchi » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:58 am

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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby parka » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:36 am

lady louisa wrote:We have been a member of the onlinetradesmen.com website for the last month and despite tendering for numerous projects we haven't received one phonecall, despite tendering lower and lower each time.

I actually intend ringing up the RIAI to ask them about it as the onlinetradesmen offer a project management service to the general public, check out this link

http://www.onlinetradesmen.com/PropertyOwners/projectmanagement/tabid/423/Default.aspx

Now is it just cynical old me or are they using all their member Architects quotes as a measuring stick to base their "competitive rates" on....

The RIAI website said it was €99 per annum, it actually costs €68 per quarter and it automatically debits your account when you are up for renewal.

Its a very amateur website that is very confusing and hard to navigate, even when you are a member.

I too would love to hear if anyone else has any experience of it.


I have already questioned them and didn't get much of a response. In my opinion it's another money making gimmick. Maybe it should go towards those CPD points we need to make up each year. :rolleyes:
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Re: tenderme.ie - architectural services

Postby lady louisa » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:09 pm

parka wrote:I have already questioned them and didn't get much of a response. In my opinion it's another money making gimmick. Maybe it should go towards those CPD points we need to make up each year. :rolleyes:


I think you are right its a money making gimmick for the people running the site.

There is nowhere to enter your e-mail address or website address but they offer to sell you a web domain and a very amateur webpage as part of your subscription.

It doesn't matter whether you already have one! You pay for text alerts, blogs, etc etc.

I'd love to hear from one architect who has secured work through them.

...as for CPD, I'm a little behind on fulfilling my 2009 obligation.....
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