massamann wrote:Sorry hats,
But I'm not with you on this one. We trade a number of our rights to the government e.g. the right to drive at 180mph, the right to build what I want where I want (provided I own the land) and in return they are meant to act in the best interests of society as a whole. But they didn't live up to their side of the bargain. While they were denying Sean and Sile Citizen the right to squeeze a second house into their front garden, at the same time they were greenlighting the rezoning of large tracts of land across the country. To me, this is not fair and equitable.
When you go to the doctor, you're the one that doesn't feel well. You're the one that smoked, drank or eat too much. But given that, you are hiring someone with more knowledge and experience than you to examine the situation and tell you what you should do. You expect their advice to be truthful; you expect their advice to be honest. After all, you are paying for it. Whether you act on it is up to you. But you at least expect them to do their job.
When the bank regulator was telling us that everything was okay, was he doing his job?
When planners were taking bribes to rezone land, were they doing their job?
When I hired a surveyor to look at my house, if he had missed something or neglected to point a critical detail out, would that be my fault or his?
You must certainly shoulder some of the responsibility for buying your house. As must I. I just wish that the public servants that we are ALL paying to do the best for us, and that I was listening to when I made the decision to buy, had been more forthcoming with the true state of play. I can't decide to opt out of paying taxes. I have no choice as to whether I follow the planning regulations or not. The state insists that this is what I must do.
And because of this, in return I expect that at the very least, I should be able to trust what these public officials tell me.
I don't disagree with your gist at all
My point, however, was more directed at those who bought somewhere and are now moaning about its quality or amenity. Moreso those like Keating who bought somewhere "dark and drafty(sic)" - is this someone who bought without viewing (mad)?, someone who bought off plans (foolish or a speculator) or bought somewhere that they never intended to live in but now have to because they can't shift. But even moreso because people like Keating seem to be taking pleasure in the demise of an industry and the pain of its dependants, driven by this begrudgery
I don't shoulder some of the responsibility for buying. I shoulder all of it unless I can prove the negligence of advice of others and, who knows, maybe someone will have the nerve to sue a bank, a governing body in the future