darkman wrote:Dublin really dosnt need two airports. Dublin Airport and the space it inhabits is under-utilised. There is only 20 million passengers a year going through the Airport:)
a boyle wrote:this is going to sound like heresy , but i don't think the airport is that busy. hear me out! In almost every airport i have ever been i have always been pretty uncomfortable.
Whenever you check in you are ALWAYS surrounded by far too many people. Whenever you are in the security queue you are ALWAYS surrounded by far too many people, and whenever you are picking up your bags you are surrounded by far too many people. I will admit there have been exceptions but in the main unless the terminal is enormous i have never liked being in an airport.
I fly from dublin at least three times a year and have always had no problem. I do need to point out that i have a very strict approach to the airport. I arrive ON TIME. not early not late , exactly 40 minutes before the flight. I always catch the end of the check in queue (or if at all possible pack a small bag and carry it on board). I then make my way direct to the gate and sit with paper in hand. NO stopping!!.
What i am trying to get at is that i think the airport problems are being hyped up and exacerbated by the dublin airport authority because it is in their interest that the airport look to be bursting at the seams! In this way they can keep adding on little extensions. WHY ? because if you took a look around the terminal any reasonable person would conclude that the best thing to do next is to simply demolish the entire thing and rebuild. They are petrified that somebody anybody will build a new terminal on the east side (where there is only grass). This is because it would be very easy to build a terminal that was so much more efficient that the current one would have to close. it is in bertie's constituency so don't expect anything to happen. the PDs would love to sort out all our transport problems but bertie will have none of it.
Keen wrote:sorry for not reading the whole thread here and butting in...
i was in berlin the last 3 days and had checked out the various options for flying there, Berlin has 3 airports with a combined passenger figure of 15.5 million. That is for 3 yes 3 airports...Dublin has 18.5 m annually and this is increasing. I think it's high time for a MAJOR expansion to combat the present and the future. i arrived yesterday into a quasi-prefab terminal outpost and had to walk 20 minutes to baggage reclaim...did anyone notice also that the planes are taxi-ingin further from the main building? And that buses seem to be in operation but in my last 2 flights this month i have not had the opportunity to board one? I don't know what is going on but it needs a huge boost to remain a credible place to do business...
Frank Taylor wrote:Successful airports spend most of their lives under construction. You'd imagine that a requirement when building an airport would be to design it in an extensible fashion. Dublin Airport looks like a bunch of misfit buildings dropped at random from a height .
corcaighboy wrote:Airports are a natural monopoly and that is why the break-up of Aer Rianta into three seperate and distinct entities made sense. For Dublin it would allow them to concertrate on building a premier airport and national gateway for the country. For Cork and Shannon, it would allow them to take charge of their own destiny. Competition between the three airports would also be a good thing, keeping each airport on its toes.
Nevertheless, we have now ended up with an airports authority that is 'semi split', with one management (!) and three different boards! Only in Ireland.
Futhermore, here in Cork we have a new terminal (finished but not open...and no date for an opening yet!) that has one only airbridge...so the main gripe that passengers had was getting wet when walking to the distant aircraft stands is not really addressed at all. I am sure most passengers would prefer a more modest looking terminal if they could simply ensure that passengers are not soaked to the skin when boarding a place. Meanwhile Dublin remains the most chaotic and dirtiest airport in Western Europe. I just fail to understand how Ireland puts up with this nonsense. Revolutions were started over less
Thomond Park wrote:Was in the Airport this morning and used gates A64-71 for the first time yes Dublin Airport has finally decended into Portacabin City with an advised 7 minutes walk from
Deadonarrival wrote:Flew into the cattle shed that is Dublin Airpport this morning from Porto - the contrast in experience couldn't be more different (and we're the ones enjoying a 10 year boom?)
Porto - a simple 30 minute metro ride costing 1.40 to a sleek, contemporary terminal (see how pretty it looks http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=4539)
Dublin - portacabin sheds stretching for what seems like miles into the mayhem of baggage reclaim as several planeloads of people crowded 4 deep waiting for their luggage...then onto a stinky bus (5euros!) which had to be diverted because of traffic caused by the wexford/kilkenny match
if we have any national pride - or pity for harrased travellers - the current terminal should be razed and replaced immediatly
Warning on metro airport location
July 10, 2006 07:47
The success of Dublin's metro will be compromised if the station at Dublin Airport is not located underneath the terminal facilities, Dublin Chamber has warned the Government.
The Rail Procurement Agency is currently finalising plans for the routing of Metro North and the favoured option has a station 700m away from the airport terminal at the Great Southern hotel.
Chamber CEO Gina Quin said that the metro will alleviate congestion around the city, but if the station is located almost one kilometre from the terminal, as is proposed, customers will not make the switch from their cars.
She said unless the more costly underground option is developed, the massive economic and social benefits the project promises to deliver to the country over the coming decades will be put at risk.
Originally posted by Deadonarrival
Flew into the cattle shed that is Dublin Airpport this morning from Porto - the contrast in experience couldn't be more different (and we're the ones enjoying a 10 year boom?)
I timed it the other evening. 4 minutes walk to the edge of pier A, 3.5 minutes walk to get past passport control (no queue at night). 2.5 minutes walk to the arrivals hall (no baggage). 9 minutes in total. It is very unpleasant. There are insufficient seats at the end of the new pier so lots of people are standing. No air conditioning. It's another reason to fly aer lingus who can often match ryanair on price these days, particularly if you travel at short notice.KerryBog2 wrote:Agreed. Went thro' 69 to Luton last week. Felt as though I was walking there. No warnings at check in about the lenght of time to get there, you are a fitter person than I if you walk it in 7 minutes! An echo box, nothing to deaden the frantic footfalls of people rushing for their flights. Most developed countries have trolleys at airports, we have them in hospitals.
adhoc wrote:This is a slightly outdated render of Pier D - the airbridges featured will not be built at this stage , although permission has been granted for them.