Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby alonso » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:47 pm

df1711 wrote:.the vantage apartments at central park seem high and also 2 high lift shafts can be seen from the M50 in sandyford.


a few crap pics from inside the car as I was goin past a few weeks ago

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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby alonso » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:56 pm

fergalr wrote:Alonso, are you giving GrahamH a run for his exhaustive Dublin photography money? ;)
Thanks for the pics. I DARTed past the docks for four years when going to UCD so the updates are much appreciated.


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nah I wouldn't dare even try challenging Graham's unimpeachable standing on archiseek.... Only developments within 15 minutes of my couch interest my camera on a day off!!!!!
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby GrahamH » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:27 pm

Oh you guys!

*flaps hand gayly*

Hey, any picture that informs works in my book alonso.

What tends to be most disappointing about slab blocks such as these is their arbitrary character; their repetitive, modular make-up is such as to make their final height, and thus the overall design, somewhat meaningless. Conversely however, the final arrived-at height does insidiously set in bricks and mortar (or should that be steel and glass) the contemporary economics of the building's construction and/or the planning ethos of the age - injecting some modicum of interest.

I agree that the stark limestone cladding and glazing will give this neo-International Style (?) a more palatable twist.
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby ihateawake » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:55 pm

Cheers for the pics.

I think you knocked the no parking sign over ;)
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby rob mc » Fri May 01, 2009 6:17 pm

We need more pics,its been about two weeks already:D:D
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby Keen » Fri May 08, 2009 6:06 pm

I saw the core as i was passing the Customs house today, it's making an impression in the skyline, already well above Alto Vetro and but i am guessing that the core has reached its highest level now
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby ihateawake » Fri May 08, 2009 6:31 pm

I was under the impression that this was 63m high? Where did I read that, or am I making things up :confused: And is there a specified height for aqua, if not what are the guesses from the pros eh?
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby gunter » Fri May 08, 2009 6:40 pm

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from Baggot St. Bridge.

If they stopped now, I wouldn't have a problem with it!
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby rob mc » Fri May 08, 2009 8:27 pm

ihateawake wrote:I was under the impression that this was 63m high? Where did I read that, or am I making things up :confused: And is there a specified height for aqua, if not what are the guesses from the pros eh?


There aren't many good pictures,but it looks about 22 or 24 storys tall, which is about 80 to 85 metres
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby thebig C » Sat May 09, 2009 10:30 am

ihateawake wrote:I was under the impression that this was 63m high? Where did I read that, or am I making things up :confused: And is there a specified height for aqua, if not what are the guesses from the pros eh?


Yes! I read the exact same figure. I even posted it here a few weeks ago. I also tried working out the floor to ceiling heights....at 16 floors, office space usually has a clearance of about 4 metres. That would make it 64m. Even, at 15 floors (because I have seen different floor counts quoted) it would be 60m with probably another couple of metres for double height lobby/entrance.

This was always touted as the new tallest in Dublin, eclipsing Liberty Hall at 60m. I have a strange suspicion that ABP randonly lopped one or two floors off (somewhere in the middle, as they frequently and bizarrely do). 60m seems to be a psychological barrier!

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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby thebig C » Sat May 09, 2009 10:31 am

rob mc wrote:There aren't many good pictures,but it looks about 22 or 24 storys tall, which is about 80 to 85 metres


Those lift shafts can be very deceiving. I remember, watching a construction along the Luas line at Black Horse, it looked 12/13 floors....turns out it was 8!
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby rob mc » Sat May 09, 2009 12:14 pm

thebig C wrote:Those lift shafts can be very deceiving. I remember, watching a construction along the Luas line at Black Horse, it looked 12/13 floors....turns out it was 8!


Yea i know what you mean,but i think this is the best picture of it:

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It shows it alongside monte making it easier to see the size difference,and to be honest it looks a damn size bigger. Should make a big impression on the skyline and finaly put that 60m barrier to rest :D
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby cgcsb » Sat May 09, 2009 12:35 pm

Liberty Hall is 59m tall. So yes I would definitely agree that there is a barrier. What height is the Milenium Tower in The grand canal dock? surely it's about the same?

Aqua will be 24 floors with a double height ground floor so possibly 90m
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby johnglas » Sat May 09, 2009 1:53 pm

Is this the 'Get a Life' thread?
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby thebig C » Sat May 09, 2009 3:38 pm

rob mc wrote:Yea i know what you mean,but i think this is the best picture of it:

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It shows it alongside monte making it easier to see the size difference,and to be honest it looks a damn size bigger. Should make a big impression on the skyline and finaly put that 60m barrier to rest :D


Yeah, it looks good in that picture......as long as the glazing/cladding doesn't change during construction. Which it has a habit of doing....just look at the Hotel the other side of the dock:)

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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby ihateawake » Sat May 09, 2009 3:43 pm

johnglas wrote:Is this the 'Get a Life' thread?


Afaik tbh :rolleyes:

Will be interesting all right to see if aqua survives the collapse.
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby thebig C » Sat May 09, 2009 3:44 pm

cgcsb wrote:Liberty Hall is 59m tall. So yes I would definitely agree that there is a barrier. What height is the Milenium Tower in The grand canal dock? surely it's about the same?

Aqua will be 24 floors with a double height ground floor so possibly 90m


Millenium tower has 16 floors, but its residential, so with lower floor to ceiling heights its probably more in the 48-50 region.
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby thebig C » Sat May 09, 2009 3:46 pm

johnglas wrote:Is this the 'Get a Life' thread?


Oh I forgot...this is Dublin so we can't discuss high-rise. I am surprised you didn't trot out the old chesnut about us being lacking in the manhood department because towers are a phalic symbol:)!!!

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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby johnglas » Sat May 09, 2009 7:28 pm

Superfluous; it's OK to discuss HR, but the obsession with measured height is, well, phallist at the very least. (Except of course that dicks stick out and not up!)
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby rob mc » Sat May 09, 2009 7:31 pm

.....and why are we talking about cocks?

I mean there's off point and then there's ridiculous:D:D
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby alonso » Sat May 09, 2009 7:57 pm

Yeh but when you are so hard up for any large erections, like we poor Dubs are, one must never prematurely pull out of any mass debates on the issue at hand.
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby thebig C » Sat May 09, 2009 8:04 pm

Com on lads, this is all getting a bit hard to swallow....lets get back on top...ic:))

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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby johnglas » Sat May 09, 2009 8:16 pm

thebigC: and the C is for...?
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby rob mc » Sat May 09, 2009 8:23 pm

johnglas wrote:thebigC: and the C is for...?


Hahaha.....oh jesus.......
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Re: Alto Vetro, grand canal docks, dublin

Postby GrahamH » Sat May 09, 2009 8:26 pm

My, this topic has aroused a sudden burst of new interest on the thread, even if the innuendo is of the rather limp variety (and not always structurally accurate). Someone put a shuddering end to it please.
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