Just a correction]'â€œweâ€™ve turned the cornerâ€ in relation to cycling numbers'[/I]. - We have in our feckin arses! Cycling in Dublin is becoming a more minority practice every day. And the way the tired old km quantity of cycle lanes is wheeled out - as if it were in itself a measure of success - â€˜300kmâ€™ - 300km of cycle lanes squeezed in at the edge of the dirty, unhealthy, unpleasant and dangerous environment that the cityâ€™s roads are.ctesiphon wrote:...However, as long as Eoin Keegan is in charge at DCC I think it will be an uphill battle. I get the feeling that cycling provision is too much of a headache for him- witness his Velo-City comments in May about the bike lane network having failed. No, Mr Keegan, it is you who has failed.
Maybe DCC need a cycle planning officer?
Yes, I too would like to hear more about what he thinks actually needs to be done. The section on cycling in the council's Development Plan contains objectives to improve things as you would expect, but doesn't, I feel, convey the gravity of the situation. It starts off with: "Cycling has the potential to transform the city's quality of life..." (bolding added) ..hmmmmm.ctesiphon wrote:Owen Keegan...seems to be saying "We've failed, and that's that," rather than "We've failed so far, but there is a solution."
Graham Hickey wrote:Often wondered do people ever use cycle lanes to cycle in the 'wrong' direction, and have you found it to be safe?
Is there any rule against this?
burge_eye wrote:Do cyclists actually follow rules per se???
crestfield wrote:Could not agree more. I have never been hit by a car, but twice I have been hit cyclists. Thats aside from all the other times I move to avoid being hit at a pedestrion crossing thats in my favour. Cyclists appear to be a law unto themselves. Now I find my self looking both ways when crossing a one way street incase I'm hit by a fast moving cyclist. Not mention those who cycle on the path of the quays to avoid crossing a bridge, as they are on the wrong side to the direction they wish to travel in.
tommyt wrote: My suggestion would be a medium sized Dutch city of your choice!
crestfield wrote:Its just that cyclists appear to protray themselves like upstanding people being hindered by other road users. Instead their just as bad as the rest!
Graham Hickey wrote:No doubt if you were wearing a novelty hat with a siren and flashing LEDs they wouldn't have seen you.
Could not agree more. I have never been hit by a car, but twice I have been hit cyclists.
crestfield wrote:Interesting that holland should be brought up. I have been to both Amsterdam and the Hauge and found conditions for pedestrians even worse. Little distingtion is made between raodways/ cycle paths/ tramways and pedestion paths. The conduct of the cyclists I found to be similiar to those here, just there was a lot more of them and therefore more dangerous.
People often speak of Amsterdam being a good model for an urban environment. I can't agree cause even though cars dominate Dublin at least we pedestrions have the paths to our selves (with the exception of the quays as mentioned) . As well as that, pedistrian areas are not dominated by cyclists here either.
I'm not implying that cyclists are the only ones to blame, I see reckless behavoir by pedestrians and motorists (I have never driven a car by the way) every day. Its just that cyclists appear to protray themselves like upstanding people being hindered by other road users. Instead their just as bad as the rest!