well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?

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Postby JPD » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:56 am

That is a very small image could you post a bigger one dave?
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Postby dave123 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:38 am

i don't how to post them larger? i know the royal george building looks way out of proportion and looks more like floor tiles , i didn;t really look to much at because i don;t the plans?i would like to be able to post them straight onto the thread without attachments?
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Postby Tuborg » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:40 am

This is the application for the area in upper henry street behind the old council offices,this site is crrently occupied by some fairly decrepid buildings and one or 2 have been derelict for around 15 years!, one of these buildings contains the hiv/aids mural,(i think it was a take off of the us army recruitment posters,with uncle sam pointing his finger) that used to freak me out when i was younger!


Demolition of sheds and structures at 23 Henry St.; Demolition of 24 Henry St. and the sheds and extensions to the rear; Demolition of the sheds and structures to the rear of 76-78 O'Connell St.; Demolition of a boundary wall and two toilet and stair returns to the rear of 79-83 O'Connell St. Construction of a pedestrian access and ancillary maintenance works to the archway at Hartstonge St. Excavation and construction of a basement car park on the site, to include the widening of Savins Lane and the provision of a through road from Savins Lane to Hartstonge St. via the Archway, Hartstonge St., a Protected Structure. Construction of a single six storey building fronting 23/24 Henry St. with 44 apartments (2 one bedroom and 42 two bedroom), ground floor and basement retail and ground floor office use. Construction of a single six storey building to the rear of 76-83 O'Connell St., with 74 apartments (6 one bedroom & 66 two bedroom & 2 three

And this is for the site immediately next door,

for the demolition of the existing buildings, out-buildings and structures at the above addresses, the construction of a basement car park including a retail storage area and the construction of a sixth storey building over to include four retail shops at ground level including all associated ancillary accommodation, first floor suite with 24 apartments over including all associated site works and site development works. This proposal is located in an architectural conservation area and no. 24, 25 and 26 Henry St. are Protected Structures.

Thankfully roches stores havent got permission to retain the liddy streets buildings for storage,if the city council were any good theyd totally reject it and tell roches they're in breach of the city centre development plan although then again who would have any confidence in them hopeless shower!..
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Postby phatman » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:49 am

Wow, you know i gotta say im impressed with all this development in Limerick of late, and especially some of the proposals im seeing, alot of the earlier development (late 90's) didn't do much for me, but definitely alot of thought and effort going into sprucing up the city in general now, not just the waterfront. Keep it up!
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Postby dave123 » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:46 pm

i also heard that the entire block on O Connelss street where supermacs is located excluding supermacs itself is been knocked for new devolpment , reason i know it because a friend of mine knows the guy who runs supermacs said it , a ptretty run block i have to say ,
there is a lot of happining at the mo
but there is nt enough high quality design building something of arcitectural significance?
roches stores really annoy me !!!
there is so much potential in teh city centre
altough its obvious that henry street is really happining and buzzing
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Postby dave123 » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:37 am

Enhanced city streets


WITH the next phase of Limerick city centre’s street remodelling due to commence shortly on upper Bedford Row and plans currently in hand to develop a number of the city’s laneways, the transformation of the heart of Limerick city is well and truly underway.

Last week councillors were presented with further details of the upgrade and voicing his confidence in the project, Cllr Joe Leddin, chairman of Limerick City Council’s Transportation Strategic Committee, pointed out that already the city has benefited from enhanced quality surfaces, street lighting, street furniture, wider pavements and additional tree planting.

"The next phase of the street remodelling will include areas between O’Connell Street and Cecil Street, William Street, Little William Street, Little Catherine Street and Fox’s Bow, all of which will result in a more enhanced street landscape.”

The councillor tempered his enthusiasm however with some cautionary observations: "While currently experiencing a major change in its physical look, Limerick does face a direct threat from the arrival of suburban retail centres and we must now act to make the city centre a more attractive and safe place in which to shop and socialise and to do business in.

"Most modern cities now have their centre either fully or partially pedestrianised and Limerick must follow this route. With the future completion of the fourth river crossing, which will result in less through traffic coming into the city, we must seize this opportunity to redirect the remaining traffic volumes around the city and breathe new life and activity back into the heart of Limerick city,” he said.

The Transportation Committee chairman also stressed the importance of green routes to successful pedestrianisation in the city.

"We need quality green routes to enable people to access the city quickly and efficiently with reliable public transport. Once suitable orbital routes for traffic have been identified around the city there’s no reason why we should not move towards complete pedestrianisation of O’Connell Street.”

The councillor said he is convinced that a vibrant city centre creates an atmosphere that cannot be found in a retail complex, which is why the "creation of a city centre with character, buzz and charm will become a huge source of appeal that will totally revitalise the heart of Limerick city”.
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Postby dave123 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:09 pm

i heard that clare and limerick county council rejected the boundary extension yet again????
i cannot understand this it has not been enlaged since 1950???

its real population is close to 100,000
Galway, athlone and othe centres have expanded theirs
considering glaway city bounday is 2 or three times bigger than limerick city boundary and twice hte size of corks ciy boundary??
it dosent make sense.....
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Postby dave123 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:10 pm

the county councils are absalute fools , really stupid .
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Postby dave123 » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:29 pm

Riverpoint Tower will be completed in two months

By Claire Connolly Doyle
THE city’s flagship building, the 75million euro 14-storey Riverpoint tower, opposite Shannon Bridge, will be ready in August. As part of the development, the worst eyesore in Limerick, Munchin House, will be torn down and rebuilt in keeping with the striking architecture of the neighbouring tower.

It could not be demolished before now as its tenant, the Department of Agriculture occupies most of it and will be moving into the Riverpoint tower when its ready for occupation.

So far, all of the apartments in the building to the right of the tower and to its rear have been sold and marketing will begin in September of the remaining 100 that will be located in the building that will replace Munchin House.

This development has a completion deadline of July 2006.

According to Rooney Auctioneers’ Gordon Kearney, all but one of the tower’s 14 storeys have been sold with just the ninth floor remaining.

But Riverpoint isn’t cheap. With two bedroomed apartments costing "north of 300,000 euro” according to Mr Kearney, they are well in excess of the average apartment price in Limerick. With tax incentives, two bedroomed apartments cost in or around 250,000 euro, or 210,000 without, according to Mr Kearney.

"But considering the location and the luxury of this property, it isn’t expensive,” insists Mr Kearney, "the views are spectacular.”

The Riverpoint tower is not as high as The Clarion Hotel, whose own architecture it mirrors. The Clarion towers above the Shannon at 17 storeys and 208 feet tall.

Clarion manager, Sean Lally said this week that he is "delighted” with the building and that it is "wonderful to see two of the highest buildings in the country alongside each other in Limerick”. He added that he hoped there would be more.

The entire Riverpoint development includes 124 one, two and three-bedroomed apartments and almost 67,000 sq ft of office space spanning 14 floors. It will have an on-site restaurant and bar on the ground floor which has already been purchased, a gym, creche and several, probably small, shops. It also has 200 parking spaces which can be purchased either by residents or workers. Each one costs 15,000 euro to buy.

Riverpoint’s developer is Limerickman Michael Daly who is also behind the Savoy development which he will be beginning work on next year.

Dublin based firm, Burke-Kennedy Doyle, are the architects of Riverpoint, which may well be in the running for some awards for their eye-catching design.
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Postby dave123 » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:33 pm

is the bounday extension going ahead ??
limeick has basically little as 190 acrea of development land left in the existing boundary so there is nochice but to build up , as their is lots of low resdential areas of the city which could be looked at ???
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Postby Tuborg » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:01 am

I'm not really sure about the boundary extension,very hard to call it either way,it was decided at the last city council meeting that they would go ahead with the application and present a formal request to the environment minister Of course this will probably gather dust for a few years as we enter into "detailed study" after "detailed study" and then reports, clare and limerick county councils are dead against it and they will carry some significant weight, i dont think limerick co co have a leg to stand on,they are hindering the development of the city with their small minded attitudes, their two biggest earners the raheen business park and the national technological park are in the city and their success is down to the fact that theyre located in the city,they wouldnt work out in the middle of west limerick would they!, its the councils own fault they havent provided an equal spread of industry and employment throughout their jurisdiction. I really hope it goes through but judging by the way in which this government has treated limerick, i wouldnt count on it. By the way where is willie o dea on this issue?, never heard him say a word!..

From the local press

Two councils refuse boundary extension

By Marie Hobbins
JUST one week before Mayor Michael Hourigan comes to the end of his mayoralty his concerted efforts to engage the neighbouring local authorities of Limerick and Clare County Councils in positive support for an extension to the city’s boundary has received a complete thumbs down from both parties.

At the end of last year detailed reports on the issue, carried out in accordance with the Local Government Act were submitted by Limerick City Council to its neighbouring councils but the response in both cases has been a resounding rejection to the case put forward for an extension.

The Council will now put their submission before the Environment Minister, Dick Roche.

According to the results of a survey of 500 people living in the area which the proposed extension would take in, 10 per cent said they did not know who administers the area in which they live, 60 per cent said they would prefer one administration, compared to three as at present and 40 per cent would prefer three.

The survey was carried out by the MRBI.

It further revealed that under Limerick City Council, 21 per cent of people felt things would be better, 60 per cent felt things would stay the same and 19 per cent felt things would be worse.

It is now anticipated that a boundary commission will be established to investigate the issue and sticking to his contention that "a strong core drives a region,” Mayor Hourigan said it is imperative in the interest of both the city and region that the Minister makes a positive decision on the proposal which was first mooted in 1974.

"The boundary has not budged since 1950 and from the replies of the opposing councils it appears that they are happy for time to stand still but a recent survey shows that in the proposed area some 60 per cent would prefer a single authority to run the city.”

Stressing that failure to resolve the boundary issue is impeding the city’s development and the entire region, the mayor said the Council has put forward a compelling argument for change.

"It’s clear that having three local authorities responsible for a city of Limerick’s size is not the most efficient and effective way to position it as the driver of growth for the Mid West and the partition of the city into three is now the greatest stumbling block to economic growth.”

There was overall support from the councillors that despite the negative response from Limerick and Clare the issue should be driven forward with Cllr John Ryan aptly reminding the members that in 1991 the then mayor, Jim Kemmy said that nobody can put a halt to the march of a city.

"Our neighbours are not living up to their responsibilities in urban areas and the head -in-the-sand attitude by refusing to consult on the issue is not working,” he added
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Postby dave123 » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:27 pm

yeah ,ironic that the county council had to build their county council offices at the cresent to keep their tradition of the "county" within the city!!
newcastlewest is a booming town because of investment from the city not because of the council .
they should invest in other parts of limerick???
its entirely limerick county councils fault for not using a proper stragegy for even devlopment throughout the county instead of cramming around the city .
i wouldn't be wrong in saying west limerick is one of the most neglected rural society in ireland?
if you go to kerry, "would you stop in west limerick ?"
limerick city is really thriving compared to what it is put up against !!
like the media , boundary extension, commercial rates etc

lets hope limerick can keep building and positive improving and a buzzing :) city for years to come!
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Postby dave123 » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:39 pm

the county councils will lose out in the future if they refuse to see the real picture with limerick as a hub/gateway
limerick will be seen as stagnant and drive investmet elseehere
clare and L\imerick councils are very foolish!! they do not want to see the benifets of the the boundary extension in the future???

its becoming a major joke ,whereas most people in the Caherdavin (Clare side)area which totally built up and is part of the agglomeration of the city and there services and infasturtre are third world
as east clare is seriously underspent
as there are people living there ,ostly from limerick city who want proper services, and be part of the city which is clearly recognised as part of the city.
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Postby Tuborg » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:31 am

Its interesting to note that despite all the talk about the docklands redevelopment it seems to be very much full steam ahead for the park canal restoration,i thought this would be put on the back burner for a while but listening to an interview with the new mayor, a new masterplan has been published for the area between lock quay and the university of limerick,and about time too, this area has huge potential,the area immediately south of lock quay is a fairly prominent and visible area as one travels on the old dublin road. It is in serious need of redevelopment especially as many new buildings(such as the barringtons development) sprung up in recent years,this area rather undermines these improvements

EXTRACTS FROM PRESS RELEASE

The Park Canal was constructed in 1757-1758 to transport goods to and from Limerick City. The canal system was invaluable in the transport of heavy goods, such as turf, potatoes, coal and, in particular, Guinness. But by 1929, with modernisation of transport and the building of the electricity generation station at Ardnacrusha, the canal had become obsolete and fell into dilapidation.
The majority of structures and buildings along the canal are located between Lock Quay and Park Bridge. To the north side of Lock Quay there are two derelict buildings in a prominent location with potential for renovation to compatible uses. The lock gates were replaced recently as part of the Limerick Main Drainage Project. A terrace of partly-dilapidated buildings to the south bank of the canal have potential for redevelopment. Further east the old Guinness warehouses are derelict and subject to a demolition order.

Generally it is proposed that improvement works are concentrated at the two main focal points of Lock Quay and Park Bridge, and along the southern bank of the canal. It is envisaged that the northern bank would retain its informal character, and with the addition of fishing platforms, while the southern bank would accommodate a continuous cycleway, improved surfaces, lighting and street furniture. The first phase of the Canal Restoration Project will allow its banks to be opened up for leisure and amenity purposes, while providing the catalyst for a variety of potential canalside development projects, such as a sports museum, craft shops, some residential, cafes and parks. Other initiatives should include the introduction of facilities for watercraft, and the creation of canal bank walks and cycling paths.


Phase 2 of the project would include:

Renovation of the two buildings to the north side of Lock Quay (e.g. for refreshment and/or interpretation uses);
Redevelopment of the terraced buildings to the south side of the canal by Lock Quay;
Redevelopment of the Guinness Building;
Redevelopment of land on south side of canal between the proposed Corbally Link Road and Park Road;
Possible provision of public car park to southwest of Park Bridge to serve canal users;
Possible redevelopment of land to the south of Canal Bank, between Park Road and Plassey Walk;
Creation of a canal basin between Park Bridge and the railway bridge providing berthing and related facilities

i've found some good detailed plans of the area but they're too big to be posted as this site has a 290kb limit or something :mad:
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Postby dave123 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:23 am

thanks for that Turborg,

it will great to see the canal to go ahead !
it will create a haven for anglers and bosts and etc..
especially with the new marina planned for limerick city.

that side of the city is going explode with new happinings !
it would be a good idea to have a commuting service from the city centre to the university by canal

great to see focus on many areas of the city that are being devloped, not just purley the quays and city centre...


where is the guiness building?
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Postby jimg » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:23 am

I found the plans on the council web site here . It's a very impressive civic project and I like the fact that they plan to leave "the informal nature" of the north bank as is. It's strange 'though that the derelict buildings, at the city end, are only earmarked for "future restoration". I don't know these buildings, anyone know what state they're in?
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Postby dave123 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:50 pm

for the demolition of the exisitng Petrol Filling Station and the erection of a 114 bed hotel comprising basement level, ground floor and six bedroom floors overhead plus ancillary bar and dining area, reception/office area, ancillary back of house areas, plant and service entrance. The development also incorporates a retail unit comprising 744sq.m; ancillary site and landscape works at the site of the existing Top Garage Dock Road
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Postby dave123 » Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:25 pm

Is there any plans to widin the childers road, i know they did a traffic study, bus lanes, cycles lanes etc ,
there are new signals for turning off to the new retail park. which is going to cause more traffic problems
there are two traffic junctions within yards of each other.

other news
(Childers road retail park i also nearly completed)
H&M ,River island, Next are moving into Cresent SC too (definate)

it looks like the southern ring road dosent seem to have any effect positive effect on the childers road ?
it should be a dual lane road, sooner the better, as there is so much developments going up.


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Postby dave123 » Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:54 pm

this is one of the nicst red brick buildings i have seen in a long time !
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Postby phatman » Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:09 pm

dave123 wrote:this is one of the nicst red brick buildings i have seen in a long time !
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Ya think? Can't say i like it, more of the same bland, boxy, small-windowed fare i reckon. Maybe to see it in person might do it more justice. My favourite red brick building of recent times is on Camden Quay in Cork, though it is a pity they didn't colour co-ordinate it with the rest of the buildings on Camden Place, it's a different shade and hence doesn't fit into the surrounds as much as it might.
Where is the building you posted?
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Postby dave123 » Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:18 pm

upper williams street mulgrave street. there is another devoplment simular to it but more original and fits in well to the mahon house devlopment.
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Postby Tuborg » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:01 pm

Childers road is one of the biggest failures ever!, it has never done anything near the job it was supposed to,but of course it is too close to the city centre to act as a ring road. It definately needs to be widened,at least between the parkway and tipperary r/bouts, the railway bridge in roxborough is a problem and i dont think iarnrod eireann are that accomodating in these situations,there is plenty of room to widen the road along much of its length, it was a disaster that the road was never extended to the dock road,there is still talks of it now but i dont see where it can be fitted in, all routes are basically blocked by development. I think to be fair to the ring road we wont really see the real benefits until the second phase to the N18 is completed , its a disgrace that the whole project wasnt completed in 1 go,of course we shouldnt really be surprised, we dont exactly get our fair share down here do we1!. Must say if its true that H&M are coming to the cresent its only more bad news for the city centre, i think zara are moving in aswell. i think it just shows that a lot of the retail accomodation is just too small,thats why river island and next are moving to purpose built units,after this next will have 3 outlets in limerick, i think hmv are talking about opening out there aswell,their store in o connell/cruises street is a bit cramped,next are also looking for a bigger store in the city centre,most likely in the new bedford row development, (actually i see they've started stripping the old savoy, must be coming down fairly soon),also oasis are moving from cruises street to the brown thomas store again because its bigger, i think they were outbid for cruises cafes(formerly bewleys) by new look.

Also the new cathaoirleach of Limerick co co bridgid teefy is totally against the boundary extension, oh dear!

SELL ARTHURS QUAY PARK NOW!...
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Postby Mob79 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:28 am

dave123 wrote:this is one of the nicst red brick buildings i have seen in a long time !
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I think the ground floor lets buildings like this down so often, it's so unbelievably bland and uninteresting, our streets will all be so monotonous. I do like recessed balconies though as opposed to cages stuck on to a sliding door.
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Postby dave123 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:08 pm

there has been a few buildings on Williams street that are getting planning permission to be refurbished , which is great news as this throughfare has been nelgected for quite some time.
31 and 32 which consist of ans exrension to rear and redevelopment of all 4 floors, Facade etc.

there two other properties on williams street tthat are planning to refurbished their premises as far as i m aware.
Not to mention the new apartments being under construction on upper Williams streeet.
including Mahon house (above pic)
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Postby dave123 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:34 pm

just came across a recent planning permission .
for Castletroy shopping centre on the Dublin rd , where the new cinema storm is located.


It consists of a new mall of total approx 7107sq m
muiti storey cark park of three levels
retail space of 682 sq m
and alterations the existing centre

does anyone know what is going in it?

its very worring for the city centre ?
any comments on this ? :confused:
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