Originally posted by Paul Clerkin
I love the Phoenix Park. Lived on Parkgate Street for a year and we used the park all the time. It was a great spot for a Sunday morning walk, nice and early when the mist was lifting. The better half used to go for a run a lot of mornings in it too. Better use could indeed be made of it, to allow parts of it to be used after dark by people other than TDs.
Three names Paul, O'Deveaney, Drumalee and Dunard. Any one of which would have been 'bad' for any area, but together formed a kind of 'ring of terror' around that part of Dublin city. Projects which had been a dumping ground for problems for generations now. They cleared out the slums in Dublin's city centre and created the "Park end of the North Circular Road" as a result.
Using the Manor Street/Stoney Batter guise to pretend that things were nice and 'community' oriented. The people who came from the three above 'projects' were never accepted into the local existing community around there. Oxmantown and Arbour Hill were existing communities who were horrified by the problems those three 'projects' created.
The other problem, is things like the Phoenix park, which create massive walls inside of which the chaos can just continue.
Other great massive unresolved areas like Grange Gorman, Broadstone, Kings Inns, Guinesses across the River, Heuston Station, Phoenix Park, River Liffey, Chapelizod by pass, numerous Defense forces institutions, urban decay like Smithfield, Blackhall place.
The area there is caught between far too many 'unresolved' areas of poorly used real estate in my humble opinion. The whole place never stood a chance, compared to other parts of the city. Given its central location and value as an area to put larger denser populations of mixed classes, it should never have been allowed to slip so far down the tubes.
The Phoenix Park is nice 'pasing through', nice to know it is there. But really nobody ever stays around that part of town long enough to realise it has real problems.
I am comparing to areas like the Miltown Road in south side of Dublin, which is much less central and convenient, yet has managed to attract all kinds of nice high density residential development down through the past few years. The recent development around the old convent there being a very good example.
Similarly around places like Herbert Park, Bushy Park and Dartry. But the area you are refering to Paul, has only served two real purposes down through the years:
1) Defense Forces.
2) Dumping ground for 'problems'.