ireland: what are we doing?

ireland: what are we doing?

Postby FIN » Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:38 pm

i just got this via email: any thoughts?


Earth to Mars

* Distance: Approx. 77 Million kms
* NASA Spirit Cost: Approx. 321 Million
* Launched: 10-06-2003
* Landed: Jan 2004
* Status: Working

Luas:

* Length of first two lines: Approx. 25kms
* Luas cost so far: Approx. 675 million
* Construction of Line A, commenced in September 1999.
* Status: Not working

Just to give some idea of scale, if there were to be an Irish mission
launched in the morning, at this rate it would take 13 million years to
get to Mars, without actually working, in spite of costing EUR208 trillion.

Idiots. But sure, aren't we gas when we've drink taken.
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Postby sw101 » Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:53 pm

Is spirit wheelchair accessible? regulations compliance can be a real strain on the budget
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Postby FIN » Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:56 pm

well everything is p.c. over there so i can just presume it is while also instructions are in spanish as well.
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Postby niall murphy » Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:26 pm

This is just more cynics having a go. Without sounding stupid, and by the way I have a sense of humour:

1. They didnt build fully electrified railway lines to mars
2. The research and development cost of the whole programme for a mission to mars is a lot more substantial to that of the development of a space vehicle. ie: the spirit.
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:57 pm

NASA Spirit doesnt have to return home and do the trip again tomorrow ;)
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Postby dc3 » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:48 pm

One encouraging sign that LUAS is getting close to the Planet Red Cow is that vandals, yes vandals, indeed, in saintly Ireland have been stoning the Luas on test.

"Men are from Mars, Luas is from project planners"
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Postby FIN » Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:31 am

first of all i'm from galway and live in galway. i don't care about ti to be honest because it doesn't affect me. so i'm not a cynic , i infact think it's a good idea so u are without a sense of humour. and i never said anything about a mission to mars i just mentioned spirit. but the price we are paying and yes i pay taxes too so i am paying for it, is absolutely stupid as i demonstrated.
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Postby niall murphy » Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:11 pm

I didnt mean to imply you were a cynic. I received that e-mail too and was referring to the person circulating it, not you personally
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Postby FIN » Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:16 pm

ooops sorry then. i'm not a cynic at all thankfully. i believe that it's about time for such public transport even though i would have prefered to see a metro. hopefully galway is next!!!!!!!!! but it is
funny the comparsion. it's reflects our ( as a country) waste of money on infrastructural projects though. it really shouldn't cost that much.
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Postby niall murphy » Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:04 pm

Metro all the way but Luas is a start. The costs of an underground can definitely be justified by the benefits to the economy. if Dublins traffic was halved it would be worth approx 3.5billion to the city each year in increased business etc etc etc
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Postby phil » Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:08 pm

When they start digging, what will they find? Another Wood Quay or another Carrickmines Castle? Can you imagine the fun we would have?!!!!!!!!!
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Postby FIN » Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:10 pm

hmmmm... fun! lol.
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Postby niall murphy » Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:12 pm

dig the thing and tie up all those hippy tree hugging b******s in some forest. Granted archeological remains need to be preserved and investigated but they shouldn't be allowed to deprive the city of VITAL infrastructure.
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Postby FIN » Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:14 pm

here here.
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Postby phil » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:20 pm

I am only pointing out what will inevitably happen when we start to dig for a metro system. It will actually be interesting to see what is found, if anything, underneath the city. I am not saying that it should stop a vital piece of infrastructure from being built. It should just be thought about as being an aspect of the construction process.

ps: FIN, what does 'lol' mean?
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Postby d_d_dallas » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:33 pm

"laugh out loud"
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Postby phil » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:34 pm

Thanks d_d_dallas
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Postby FIN » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:37 pm

there could be loads of stuff underneath...execpt if it digs so far so as to miss all of it, but enev so the tree huggers will be up in arms...protect everything!!!!
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Postby PVC King » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:42 pm

Re the 'Underground Dublin' Thread

Quote James
"Despite most of the interest cited on this thread there are very few underground 'spaces' in Dublin.

A couple of railway tunnels, several culverted rivers and the odd bomb shelter usually shallow and dating from the last war."

Don't worry The Metro has full An Taisce support and the gag was well delivered
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Postby FIN » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:45 pm

oh! sorry didn't see that thread...so there is no viking settlements or anything like that? that makes it an awful lot easier...
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Postby PVC King » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:48 pm

http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?s=&threadid=514

Thankfully not,

Only a gridlocked surface
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Postby phil » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:52 pm

It would definitely make things alot easier.
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Postby GrahamH » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:41 pm

The metro would go much deeper than any Viking 'layers' wouldn't it?
The inital bore holes may reveal some finds, but otherwise I think we'd be going to deep for any problems - of the historic variety that is.
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Postby FIN » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:45 pm

that's what i thought.
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