What is a village?

What is a village?

Postby garethace » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:10 pm

i'm sorry, but i can't take this post seriously. 5 storeys IS NOT HIGH! this is what happens in a country where the tallest building is 60 metres tall. i come from a village with less that 3,000 and we have buildings over 5 storeys high (which were built in the 19th Century) i really cant believe that you would consider 5 storeys in a town as large as Bray to be high, if anything, new buildings in Bray should be three times the height of that.


This was in reference to an apartment building in Bray. But my question is this specifically - is 3,000 people of a population, considered to be a village in Ireland? I think not. I am aware of some major 'centres' of business, commerce, retail and administration in rural Ireland, which are only 3,000 people strong if you do include most of the surrounding sprawl. Any opinions?

Brian O' Hanlon.

P.S. It was this thread here about places of work, which initially made my wonder about towns as places of work and centres of local government/administration. I mean these so called towns of 3,000 people in rural Ireland have got quite respectable Local Civic office buildings now for Motor Tax etc, etc.
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Postby delta_jacob » Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:03 pm

Being the one who made the original comment, I have to point out that the place i was referring to is very much just a village, it is in the countryside, far from any large towns or cities.
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Postby garethace » Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:14 pm

Why don't you have a look at this then. NewCastle West has only about 2 thousand people in its centre, or 3 thousand counting all sprawl. I mean, it would have lots and lots and lots of people coming to work there each day, as a major centre in West County Limerick. Giving it the impression of size, but most of those commuters live out the country.

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I do not know anyone in West Limerick who would refer to that place as 'a village'. And there are loads of 'villages' there with around 100-200 people living in them. With Post offices, shops, pubs, GAA fields etc.
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Postby d_d_dallas » Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:59 pm

An Irish village is a street with one petrol station acting as corner shop, butcher, video rental, hairdresser, with twelve pubs.
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Postby garethace » Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:12 pm

Or is it the cluster of 40-50 bungalows out in the middle of nowhere, which isn't even on a map? But still managed to win last years county final under 16 football champion ship, with all those fine straping young athletes, being reared in that bungalow cluster! :-)

The idea of townland, parish, county, and country. Is now being overlaid with a rather different pattern. That of City, Town, village and hinterland. See the difference? This debate is raging in America too, because people would rather exist in no-name communities out in the hinterland, than be a part of cities, towns or villages.

Brian O' Hanlon.
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Postby garethace » Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:16 pm

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Postby d_d_dallas » Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:23 pm

Hmmm - well Killkenny is called a "city" - and Cork is allegedly (and I can would tend to agree) the smallest 2nd city in the western world (proportionately that is) and barelyt scrapes the term "city". So imagine what qualifies as a "village"...
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Postby garethace » Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:22 pm

I also believe that Dublin has some of the smallest Housing developments, or Housing estates in Europe too. I don't know how they manage to calculate that, but.... it visited schemes by J.P. Oud in Holland, and they aren't just a cluster of houses, they accomodate a couple of hundred at a time. Normally housing developments in this country, designed to accomodate that number are the usual awful, mock tudor shite.
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