O' Connell Street, Dublin

Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby Quillber » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:40 am

Both Starbucks on Westmoreland St have unsupervised upper seating floors. The one off Grafton St too.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby urbanisto » Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:02 am

rumpelstiltskin wrote:Why can't somebody just paint this building ... why?!!! White paint isn't that expensive!


You could say the same for 2/3rds of the rest of the city. The idea that "property has its responsibilities as well as its rights" is far from the psyche of many building owners in this city.

Painting and window cleaning..the cheapest of measures...
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby Peter Fitz » Thu May 01, 2014 1:12 pm

What have they done to the oriental planes on O'Connell Street? - It is normal to raise the crown of a tree as it matures, but not to remove half of it's branches.

Just as they were coming in to their own, we are no left with a few leaves on a stick, no doubt all in the name of Bridey, who couldn't quite see her bright yellow bus stop.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby Peter Fitz » Thu May 01, 2014 1:17 pm

Meanwhile I see the Luas carve up of the street begins as the RPA get to realise their vision - a vista of overhead cables through the heart of the city and it's main buildings.

A crazy, lazy decision, typical of the contempt many state agencies seem to display for this city & its built environment.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby urbanisto » Thu May 01, 2014 1:29 pm

Shit photo sorry...but it might interest. I'll try and get better in coming days

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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby Peter Fitz » Thu May 01, 2014 1:45 pm

Ah yes, lets make sure that the Rosie Hacket challenges the shit out of O'Connell Bridge, not only by its proximity but now by giving it the show time lighting treatment.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby GrahamH » Thu May 01, 2014 9:46 pm

Oh Christ, I passed this last night and nearly threw up. Who the heck granted permission for these heroic pylons with illuminated pink flying saucers?!! If one ever wondered what happens when you cross Ponte Alexandre III with the set of Saturday with Bibi c. 1987, sadly we now know the answer.

This is unbelievable stuff. What sophisticated city anywhere accepts muck like this, never mind in the middle of the strategic vista towards the Custom House? It's classic rubbish beloved of unconfident, provincial cities that dress their streetscapes with disposable consumer tat to try appear relevant and modern. I utterly despair of the planning processes and authorities in Dublin. It's a ship of fools running the show and nobody's shouting stop.

By contrast, the bridge itself is remarkably slender and quite elegant as an engineering feat. Alas, the emerging surrounding public realm is only the latter, quelle surprise.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby rumpelstiltskin » Fri May 02, 2014 2:07 am

Graham, the entire area around that bridge is a dump, included both quays which are truly truly depressing and awful. Any change is an improvemnt. And unfortunately there's no vista of the Customs House because it's blocked by an ugly bridge, and overlooked by a badly maintained high rise.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby GrahamH » Fri May 02, 2014 12:15 pm

<sigh> You're off again rumple. You're probably the planner from the 1990s who famously declared in response to claims of poor design standards in Dublin 1, that anyone who was willing to invest in Gardiner Street should be "let at it". No doubt you now feel this area is a "dump" and "anything is better than nothing" to improve it.

Please stop this mantra - honestly, it's quite disturbing.

And for the record, Eden Quay is one of the more attractive quays in the city. Don't allow social problems colour your opinion. A new expanse of new tarmac and a clatter of poles is certainly not going to fix that.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby rumpelstiltskin » Fri May 02, 2014 5:58 pm

I'm going to assume the Eden Quay comment is a joke. I just think your criticism is ridiculous. It's not that bad, and improves a drab area, while also making that often used vista towards Liberty Hall a tad less grey. Also, the comment about provincial cities is idiotic, since Dublin is probably the city in Europe which is most pathologically averse to flash, even if it would be advantageous to introduce a bit of it.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby urbanisto » Fri May 02, 2014 10:09 pm

A few snaps of the new bridge on the exsiting thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6703&p=118042#p118042

I have to say I agree with Graham about the quality of Eden and Burgh Quays. Some notable examples aside (such as Aviation House or Scotch House or whatever its called) there's plenty to like on these quays, although its all hideously presented.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby rumpelstiltskin » Sat May 03, 2014 12:48 am

If you tore down at least a third of the buildings on both quays and replaced them with interesting modern architecture, painted over or removed all the grey plaster (which blights Dublin in general), concealed the swarm of wires nailed to the front of every building, put in appropriate windows, actually cleaned these buildings, put in appropriate shop fronts, widened and improved the pavements, removed the poles and other clutter, and removed most of the bus traffic, you would have a couple of nice quays.

He said Eden Quay "is one of the more attractive quays in the city". That's like saying Susan Boyle is beautiful, just because she would be if she lost 50 pounds, dyed her hair, and went to a plastic surgeon.
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Re: O' Connell Street, Dublin

Postby fergalr » Mon May 05, 2014 8:07 pm

Burgh Quay is quite handsome and has real potential... if only its immediate hinterland wasn't a soulless airlock between the northside and southside. Eden Quay is without a doubt one of the sketchiest streets in Dublin. It's a really unpleasant place to spend any time. I speak from years of experience queuing for buses there. It can be a properly intimidating spot. There's nothing there but bus stops and the architectural stock is no better or worse than many other quays.
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