Sandymount Presbyterian Church

Sandymount Presbyterian Church

Postby john white » Wed Sep 15, 1999 10:48 am

I was invited to the 'Save the Church' meeting yesterday 15th September as I strolled by the residents picketing outside it and signed the petition.

So I went along to the meeting in Mount Herbert Hotel where the residents and Architects stated their alternative options which were proposed to the Church Authorities. None of which were considered. They're very angry and saddened and are resolved to stick with the fight and begin a media campaign.

The Church is now actually scheduled for demolition some time soon - perhaps today, perhaps next week...

It's very sad indeed and doesn't really seem to make sense.

What they need now is for people to take a couple of minutes to write, or FAX their opposition to the demolition to the following [I don't have the phone number]:

Rt. Rev. Dr. John Lockington,
c/o Church House,
Fisherwick Place,
Belfast,
BTI 6DW

FAX: 0801 232236609

I hope that's the right number.

Just a reminder: It may not be an Architecturally amazing building and IS only from 1865 but it's a beautiful component of Sandymount, loved by the residents - 4000 people have signed the petition in opposition.

Definitely worth saving.

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Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Sep 15, 1999 10:58 am

You can email them at

Info@PresbyterianIreland.org

I'll set up a form on Archeire
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Sep 15, 1999 11:04 am

http://www.archeire.com/borg.cgi

This will sent an email to The Presbyterian Church in Ireland.
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Postby john white » Wed Sep 15, 1999 11:33 am

By the way:

One alternatine development proposed by the resident's Commitee involved a Grant of £275.000.00 to build the sheltered housing into the grounds and hall without losing the church.

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Postby Paul Clerkin » Wed Sep 15, 1999 5:48 pm

PRESS RELEASE
Issued : 13-9-1999
For Immediate Release

PRESBYTERIAN RESIDENTIAL TRUST TO PROCEED WITH TRITONVILLE SHELTERED ACCOMMODATION DEVELOPMENT

The Presbyterian Residential Trust is to proceed with its original plans to develop its site at Tritonville Road in Dublin to provide a further 17 units of sheltered accommodation for the elderly complementing the existing 32 units already on the site.

The Trust had voluntarily postponed work on the site on August 13 to consider last minute objections raised by local residents, despite its application for planning permission having been granted by Dublin Corporation Planning Department on 3 occasions over the last 7 years and most recently on May 6, 1999. No objections were ever raised during the processing of these planning applications.

Progress on the £1.5 million project to provide urgently needed accommodation in the Dublin area was halted by the Trust to allow time for residents to make representation over the concerns they had about the demolition of the redundant Sandymount Church which has not be used for worship for over 20 years.

In the 4 weeks since August 13, members of the Trust have met twice with a group comprising Sandymount residents, local politicians, officials of An Taisce and a solicitor and architect working on the project on the residents' behalf, to hear their concerns and to receive proposals from them detailing other ways in which the site could be developed. In that time Trust representatives have also met with Dublin Corporation Planning Department, Dublin Corporation Housing Grants Department and the National Monuments Committee.

Now having reviewed its own proposals which were developed over a seven year period from 1992 and given detailed consideration to the residents proposals including having some outline drawings prepared by the Trust's architects to test the feasibility of one suggested option they have decided to proceed with the project as originally planned.

This involves the removal of the disused Sandymount Presbyterian Church and Halls and selling part of the site with planning permission for development of private apartments. On the remainder of the site a new 17 bed sheltered dwelling complex and communal area will be built. The total cost of the project is £1.5m which will be funded by the Presbyterian Residential Trust and the proceeds from the partial sale of the site.

The Presbyterian Residential Trust was established 50 years ago in 1949 by the Presbyterian Church in Ireland and runs a total of 9 nursing, residential and sheltered dwelling projects throughout Ireland. At any time there are about 250 residents in the various homes and sheltered dwellings run by the Trust which in addition to all the usual facilities makes a conscious effort to ensure residents are offered spiritual support and encouragement. The Tritonville Sheltered Housing complex was opened in 1971 and extended in 1981. It has 27 single flats and 5 double flats.
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Postby john white » Wed Sep 15, 1999 6:03 pm

I read that press release they sent back to me fearing that they'd win me over.

They didn't. I still honestly can't see why they're doing it.

There's acres of derelict land and land under crummy, useless buildings in dublin which should be compulsarily purchased.

Why isn't this happening? Is the land owned by speculators who are:

a. In/In With the bodies that run this country?

b. Organised criminals and hence too dangerous to force to do anything?

OR:

d. Is this just all a collosal Feck-Up?

I'd love to get some reasonable answer.

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Postby Jas » Thu Sep 16, 1999 8:47 am

Candlelight vigils will be held at the church every night this week and a public meeting has been organised outside the building for 3 p.m. on Saturday. A petition against demolition has been signed by 4,000 people.
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Postby MG » Thu Sep 23, 1999 8:02 am

Too late I fear

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Postby john white » Thu Sep 23, 1999 10:00 am

OH JESUS CHRIST !

I'm just about ready to give up on this bloody place. I am boiling with rage.

I feel so much HATRED for the Presbyterian Church Authorities at present.

Ireland is getting WORSE I tell you.
Any beautiful architechture that goes ahead nowadays probably only does so for commercial reasons and stuff deemed of no commercial value is destroyed.

Why am I living in this place?

$^%&£*( !!!

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Postby Jas » Thu Sep 23, 1999 10:10 am

What I really hate is the whole hypocrisy of the Church.... they kept playing the "Sheltered Housing Card" while casually neglecting to mention too loudly the plans to sell the front of the site to a developer for apartment blocks.
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Postby john white » Thu Sep 23, 1999 10:04 pm

Hi. Sorry, I've calmed down a bit.

Maybe the 'H' word was a bit much. But I am so incredibly Dissapointed and thoroughly Disgusted with them.

I just don't fathom how they could destroy a piece of their own Culture. A prime symbol of their connection with the community.

I haven't a shred of religion in me. I don't even believe that that Church was some particularly incredible example of religious architecture. And from the basic 'it's dead old' point of view; it was only built in 1865!

No, there's more to it than that and I pity those who can't feel it.

Well, I suppose it's all part of the rich genetic diversity which enables a species to evolve isn't it? The art lovers and the 'right-sided-of-the-brained' administrators and businessmen.

It's just very, very sad.

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Postby RoryW » Fri Sep 24, 1999 4:24 pm

And Now for the sequel:

They are going to demolish the Presbeterian church at the junction of Adelade Road and Earlsfort Terrace leaving just the facade, and "reconstruct" the church behind the facade with an office block out the back.

And not a sheltered accomodation unit in sight!!!

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Postby Paul Clerkin » Fri Jan 28, 2000 5:10 pm

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Postby john white » Sat Jan 29, 2000 12:26 pm

This has to stop
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Postby Rory Flynn » Fri Feb 04, 2000 1:03 pm

I know, lets all join churchs where we like the building, then attend mass and make contributions every Sunday. Otherwise their administrations won't realise we love both the building and its higher purpose!
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