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shannon new town, co. clare
Shannon is a new town located in County Clare and is one of only two planned towns in Ireland, the other being the northern town of Craigavon. It was given town status on January 1st, 1982.
These images are from an old architecture magazine from 1979. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The architects were Burke O'Dea Was the town centre built to this plan? |
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Shirley thersh shum mishtake?... Might you mean one of only two planned in the 20th C? ![]() |
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
Yes pedant
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
I didn't think the nuclear threat was still so pressing in 1979.
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
where did you get those images paul? fascinating stuff. the central bank springs to mind, as well as some of the awful stuff thrown up in glasgow around the same time.
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A little bit more info on Shannon New Town Centre;
By 1972 the initial phase was up amd running; and by that time it had a population of 4300. The layout was based around a town square idea, featuring an L shaped mall with a 42,000sq. ft. office block as the dominent feature. It already had by then a supermarket, shops, a restaurant and a pub; it was hoped that a bank, post office, garage and hotel would be started later that year. The early plans were quite different from the sheme that was later to emerge, as illustrated by Paul. A competition was held to decide the design, it attracted 4 Irish entries and a number from across the water. The selected architects were B. P. Jeffers and Assoc with the Consultant Architect being Arthur Gibney, while Downes, Meehan, and Robison did the office block. The development was a joint venture between Messrs John Sisk and Shannon Free Airport Development Co. At the time Plan Magazine said that "it has at least every chance of being an environmental success". |
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In the middle is the Shannon Development Headquarters. Today the Sky Court Shopping Centre takes up the heart of the town centre.Sky Court Shopping Centre http://www.skycourtshannon.com/ Major enclosed Retail Centre 20,000 sq.m comprising of 60 retail units. Foodcourt comprising of 6 units from 70 sq.m to 150 sq.m Home to the biggest concentration of Industrial employment outside the Dublin Metropolitan Area Catchment population of 40,000 within a 20 minute drive Anchors:Tesco, Dunnes Stores and Lidl Also located adjacent to the centre are: Shannon Development Shannon Credit Union Shannon Library Shannon & District Chamber of Commerce Shannon Map: Airport, Town and Industrial Zones. ![]() Shannon Development: http://www.shannondev.ie/ Official website for Shannon Town: http://www.shannon.ie/ Shannon Airport: http://www.shannonairport.com/index.html Any present day images around? Last edited by CologneMike; 7th March 2007 at 12:51 AM. Reason: Image links no longer available. See attachments. |
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
Does anyone have any pictures of Shannon Town as it is today? I've never been, cannot find anything online and am curious to see what it's like compared to every other town in the country...
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Seriously though for a town of its size it really has been poorly devleoped..until now. The Sky Court is making some difference to the town but up until recently it has suffered from having approx 30% of the retail space of a similar town of same population. Its proximity to Limerick and Ennis hasn't helped this. The Sky Court development has changed things a bit but it is still very much a work in progress. The Dunnes Stores section of the Shopping mall is bland and adds little or nothing to the area. What Shannon really needed was a street scape of some sort but what has been so far delivered is a bigger version of the shopping centre that was there already with blocks of new aprtments(http://www.brunasionna.com/) and a new open space which imo is very poor. I'm reserving my judgement until the next phases are complete but it still has the feel of a suburb of Limerick city without ever feeling like a town in its own right.(very like Raheen/Dooradoyle including large housing estates and a massive industrial park) By the Way those buildings in the plans above for the most part have never happened. Some of the early multistory developments in the town are to be torn down (one after a recent fire rendered it unsafe apparently). I'll upload some pics later in the week if possible but it would be unfair to judge on what it looks like until the developments are finished. Not much so far of real architectural merit imo. Last edited by vkid; 6th March 2007 at 11:19 PM. |
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
A friend of mine was manager of the Penneys shop in Shannon TC in the early '70's... it was looked upon as a hardship posting, a necessary stopping point on the way up the management tree. For years after it was regarded akin to a transfer to Siberia ( a suitable comparison as it was a bleak place!)
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
Yes indeed, with all those pine trees along the way, the drive into Shannon on a wet morning reminds me greatly of the awful dreariness of the Mecklenburg heath; while the buildings inevitably impress an idea, and remind the sensitive mind of Eric Hoenecker and the tatty glory of the Deutsche Demokratische Republik - now thankfully embalmed in the pages of German history.
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Yes indeed, 28.000 trees were planted for landscaping in 1968 because they were very important for shelter, due to the exposed nature of the estuary. Driving into Shannon on a sunny morning reminds me greatly of the positive energy unleashed by Shannon Development in the 1960’s to counteract that awful dreariness of mass emigration from Munster and Connacht; while the factory buildings inevitably impress an idea, and remind the sensitive mind of Sean Lemass who started to address the failed protectionist policies of the Irish Free State - now thankfully embalmed in the pages of Irish history. Quote:
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
TCD Arts Block amidst semi-reconstructed Aztec ruins alright!
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![]() Presenting architecture: 20th century drawings and models from the collections of the Irish Architectural Archive. www.iarc.ie/exhibitions/0001.html |
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Brϊ na Sionna http://www.brunasionna.com Achitects JohnThompson & Partners and constructed by Paddy Burke Builders Ltd Phase 1 See Map (A) (F) http://www.brunasionna.com/layout_map.jpg http://www.brunasionna.com/thumb_small.jpg Phase 2 See Map (G) (M) http://www.brunasionna.com/layout_map2.jpg Phase 2 will consist of six apartment and town house blocks, a 5,000 square foot crθche and a neighbourhood shop. Ideally located beside the new town park and preserved woodland amenity, Each block differs in style and shape, some with gardens, balconies and terraces etc. All properties come with parking included. Block J http://www.brunasionna.com/block_j_800.jpg Block L http://www.brunasionna.com/block_l_800.jpg Last edited by CologneMike; 7th March 2007 at 12:47 AM. Reason: Image links no longer available. See attachments. |
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
The gas thing with so many of these 1960s designs is that they could look good with the right materials and suitable landscaping. UCD Belfield (one close to my heart, as I'm still going there) would look different with some red brich here and there, more sensitive treatment of public spaces on campus, closer together buildings, a central paved area of some form and a material other than concrete in the principal buildings.
The Arts block in portland stone certainly would be interesting!! |
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
have had various issues with both my pc and camera recently so havent had a chance to upload photos yet. Give me a few days as just getting them sorted out now.
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
Touch of the Brunswick Centre in London to that Shannon design perhaps?
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
Sorry for the delay folks. Today is the first chance I got to go walkabout so here's Shannon in all its...erm...glory. Shots aren;t great as they are the first bunch Ive taken with a new camera. Some other non Shannon bits further down too including an interesting toll bridge!
Skycourt/Bru na Sionna ![]() ![]() The below was apprently to be demolished due to a recent fire but apparently now it is to be refurbed! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by vkid; 6th March 2007 at 11:22 PM. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Older Parts of Town Centre - next to be redone apparently...you can see why..(although it is the back of the centre) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
UL Health Science Building ...hadn't seen it before. Lot of stuff happening on the Plassey Campus.
![]() ![]() An old Toll Bridge just outside Shannon near Bunratty...Shame to see it in such disrepair..! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
apart from that toll bridge are there any old buildings(as in early 20th century or earlier) or attempts at fabricating 'old' looking buildings in the area?
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Re: shannon town centre proposal of 1979
Nope. Loads of stuff outside the town but all thats in the town is one thatch cottage which is currently a resturaunt/take away. Loads of older stuff in the Bunratty/SixmileBridge/Drumline area but you must remember what is now the town was pretty much the banks of the Shannon Estuary until the Airport and FreeZone came along. Towards the back of the Airport there are some older buildings(cottages etc) and some early settlements on the islands in the Estaury but the town itself is all relatively new.
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